Plasma or LCD tv's?
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neither, DLP.
some pros/cons
Plasma - pro: doesn't take much space, can hang it on a wall
con: picture fades over time, nothing you can do about it
LCD - pro: good color, good picture
con: if/when a pixel goes out, it is out forever, not fixable.
DLP - pro: good color/picture, lamp is replaceable for not much money if it burns out, you can't just lose a single pixel, won't fade like a plasma
con: usually more expensive, and I think the next generation is about to come out which will be even more expensive, but is supposed to look better
some pros/cons
Plasma - pro: doesn't take much space, can hang it on a wall
con: picture fades over time, nothing you can do about it
LCD - pro: good color, good picture
con: if/when a pixel goes out, it is out forever, not fixable.
DLP - pro: good color/picture, lamp is replaceable for not much money if it burns out, you can't just lose a single pixel, won't fade like a plasma
con: usually more expensive, and I think the next generation is about to come out which will be even more expensive, but is supposed to look better
Duder
25+ Posts
DLP is where it is at. I have a movie room with an 8' sharp *** picture that I am projecting from a $1000 hp DLP projector. The only weird thing about DLP is that about 20% of the population sees a rainbow across the screen that makes it unwatchable. Luckily myself and Mrs. Duder don't have that problem.
I have a 30" LCD in the living room and love it. Newer LCD's don't lose pixels as often.
HOWEVER, I have a 70" screen displaying from an 1100 lumen DLP in the bedroom...TV tuner in the PC alows for 55" TV/DVD/whatever window, with the desktop/other windows still available. I'm posting this from that PC/projector arrangement. It is fantastic. DTS sound and DVD movies with the wife are great. As mentioned above, if you have good control over the light DLP projector is great.
They do generate some heat though. And you'll want to make sure the screen is stable (like a ceiling fan will make an unsecured screen sway).
HOWEVER, I have a 70" screen displaying from an 1100 lumen DLP in the bedroom...TV tuner in the PC alows for 55" TV/DVD/whatever window, with the desktop/other windows still available. I'm posting this from that PC/projector arrangement. It is fantastic. DTS sound and DVD movies with the wife are great. As mentioned above, if you have good control over the light DLP projector is great.
They do generate some heat though. And you'll want to make sure the screen is stable (like a ceiling fan will make an unsecured screen sway).
washparkhorn
2,500+ Posts
As I just went through this confusing issue, I researched it to death on Avsforum. There were more quality issues with DLPs than plasma. With a 10 year life expectancy for a plasma, I was not worried about it going dark. Plasmas display dark colors better than DLPs and LCDs. You should check out avsforum. Here is what I concluded:
1. Plasma, if you can afford it. Check out the Panasonics. They are the Avsforum favorite for performance and value.
2. DLP, if you have a dark(er) room and don't see the rainbows. Remember those color wheels that people used to put on their aluminum Christmas trees? That's basically the technology for DLPs (of course, highly advanced). If you have a lot of sunshine/light in the room, the picture will look dark compared to a good plasma. Also, the viewing angle is limited. I wasn't scared off by the DLP technology, but the room I was putting the television in was just too light. The benchmark right now is the Samsung according to Avsforum.
3. LCD. There just wasn't much talk of LCD technology. On Avsforum, it was either plasma or DLP. LCDs are more expensive than plasmas and black colors end up being dark gray (which means less detail), but don't have the burn in problem plasmas can develop (a ghost image if you leave an image on the set for too long) and they will last longer 15 years v. 10 years for plasmas.
Good luck.
1. Plasma, if you can afford it. Check out the Panasonics. They are the Avsforum favorite for performance and value.
2. DLP, if you have a dark(er) room and don't see the rainbows. Remember those color wheels that people used to put on their aluminum Christmas trees? That's basically the technology for DLPs (of course, highly advanced). If you have a lot of sunshine/light in the room, the picture will look dark compared to a good plasma. Also, the viewing angle is limited. I wasn't scared off by the DLP technology, but the room I was putting the television in was just too light. The benchmark right now is the Samsung according to Avsforum.
3. LCD. There just wasn't much talk of LCD technology. On Avsforum, it was either plasma or DLP. LCDs are more expensive than plasmas and black colors end up being dark gray (which means less detail), but don't have the burn in problem plasmas can develop (a ghost image if you leave an image on the set for too long) and they will last longer 15 years v. 10 years for plasmas.
Good luck.
Just worked a Nanotech conference a couple of weeks ago. One ot the subjects was display technology. Most of the people sneered at plasma and lcd and said to be on the lookout for F.E.D. (Field Emitting Display) in 2007. This was not just a standard tech conference, the speakers included 2 Nobel Prize winners and the head of R&D for most of the big companies (Philips, TI, etc.) The basics of it is a 1"-1.5" thick piece of glass with a layer of light emitting molecules on the back of it. Apparently the display is superior to anything out there and is cheap to produce. Can't tell you much more as most of the subject matter was way above my head.
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OrangeTaintedLuv
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Nuge,
So when will we be getting "smart paper" like in Neal Stephenson's book The Diamond Age. If you haven't read the book, it's something like paper that dynamically changes it's pigmentation so that it's basically a display medium. That way, the medium would not need to emit light. We would just need to light the medium.
I read somewhere that some company (Bell Labs? HP?) had developed a very crude black/white form of "smart paper."
So when will we be getting "smart paper" like in Neal Stephenson's book The Diamond Age. If you haven't read the book, it's something like paper that dynamically changes it's pigmentation so that it's basically a display medium. That way, the medium would not need to emit light. We would just need to light the medium.
I read somewhere that some company (Bell Labs? HP?) had developed a very crude black/white form of "smart paper."
Happy fun ball and I have been coveting DLP's since we saw one at a friend's house. It was magnificent.
I really hadn't looked at many of these things head to head, but I was in an AV store the other day and was really struck as to how bright and intense the picture was in both plasma and LCD compared to the DLP. I'm light years away from buying, but when and if I do, I don't have anything resembling a "dark room". Something to consider, though the cost and longevity of plasma is not very attractive.
I really hadn't looked at many of these things head to head, but I was in an AV store the other day and was really struck as to how bright and intense the picture was in both plasma and LCD compared to the DLP. I'm light years away from buying, but when and if I do, I don't have anything resembling a "dark room". Something to consider, though the cost and longevity of plasma is not very attractive.
well are we talking about RP LCD sets or flat panel LCD?
I've been looking at DLP vs RP LCD at avs too and whoever said there wasn't much talk about LCD...what forum were you on? I usually look on just the RPTV forum because that's what I'm in the market for. The Sony Grand Wega RP LCD TVs seem to be getting a ton of attention on there when people ask about DLP vs LCD.
I've been looking at DLP vs RP LCD at avs too and whoever said there wasn't much talk about LCD...what forum were you on? I usually look on just the RPTV forum because that's what I'm in the market for. The Sony Grand Wega RP LCD TVs seem to be getting a ton of attention on there when people ask about DLP vs LCD.
TennesseeHorn
100+ Posts
Just get a 52" or 60" JVC HD-ILA Micro-display Television and be done with it..........................I bought the 52" and it's just plain incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hlaustin
250+ Posts
My turn.
Yes plasma does fade, the half life is 30,000 hours so go watch 6 hours a day and 15 years down the line you will see half the brightness.
Pixels going out. All of these technologies can have a pixel go out, on a dlp it is a mirror freezeing up or getting stuck, have seen it happen. Also be aware of the sound a color wheel can make, as well as the cooling fan.
If you are looking at price a rear projection set is the way to go, if you are limited in depth, or want the best thing on the market then Plasma is the way to go, fastest refresh rate, best with motion, best viewing angle and best color.
If you are after best bang for your buck Sony rear projection LCD or JVC DILA. With any of these make sure you look at analog material on them first. They all look good with HD but analog is where the DLP suffers with fast motion and with football games you can really see the green push in the DLP when you look at the field.
Yes plasma does fade, the half life is 30,000 hours so go watch 6 hours a day and 15 years down the line you will see half the brightness.
Pixels going out. All of these technologies can have a pixel go out, on a dlp it is a mirror freezeing up or getting stuck, have seen it happen. Also be aware of the sound a color wheel can make, as well as the cooling fan.
If you are looking at price a rear projection set is the way to go, if you are limited in depth, or want the best thing on the market then Plasma is the way to go, fastest refresh rate, best with motion, best viewing angle and best color.
If you are after best bang for your buck Sony rear projection LCD or JVC DILA. With any of these make sure you look at analog material on them first. They all look good with HD but analog is where the DLP suffers with fast motion and with football games you can really see the green push in the DLP when you look at the field.
My roommate just bought a 55 " LCoS Phillips TV from Ulitmate Electronics. The picture in the store looked sweet. I think LCoS technology has only been out for like a year or so. It is getting delivered next Saturday, so i'll let you know what we think.
Also, for the home theatre gurus.. he bought the $300 power cord.. was this necessary? A friend of mine tries to tell me that it wasn't and he could've picked one up for $50. I told him that if he dropped 3 grand on a tv, then $300 on a surge protector to protect it is definitely worth it.
Also, for the home theatre gurus.. he bought the $300 power cord.. was this necessary? A friend of mine tries to tell me that it wasn't and he could've picked one up for $50. I told him that if he dropped 3 grand on a tv, then $300 on a surge protector to protect it is definitely worth it.
TheSheriffIsNEAR
250+ Posts
$300 on a power box is a lot, if he's just using it for a TV. If he has a boatload of other components on it too, then it may be worth it. His sales guy feels better, I'll bet.
we are getting a 60" Sony KDF-60XS955 Rear Projection LCD, so I'll tell you guys how that looks when it arrives.
The differences in the LCD and DLP were amazing in the store. I had heard such great things about DLP but I came away very unimpressed. While we were there they had a SD basketball broadcast on. I saw the "stretching" on the sides of the DLP and knew that I could never watch sports on that set. I have friends that have them and love them, but it wasn't for me.
The differences in the LCD and DLP were amazing in the store. I had heard such great things about DLP but I came away very unimpressed. While we were there they had a SD basketball broadcast on. I saw the "stretching" on the sides of the DLP and knew that I could never watch sports on that set. I have friends that have them and love them, but it wasn't for me.
MrPhlegm
250+ Posts
We just got an RCA rear projection 56" HDTV for less than $2,000.00 delivered and set-up. This thing has all of the HDTV reciever stuff already in it and the picture is fantastic.
as far as the flat panels go, sit tight on those if you can, the prices are supposed to PLUMMET on them in 2005. Evidently manufactuers have spent a fortune on fabs for the things and there will be a glut on the market.The Link
In addition to that there is a new process for manufacturing the glass that is used for them in larger sheets.
as far as the flat panels go, sit tight on those if you can, the prices are supposed to PLUMMET on them in 2005. Evidently manufactuers have spent a fortune on fabs for the things and there will be a glut on the market.The Link
In addition to that there is a new process for manufacturing the glass that is used for them in larger sheets.
I'm with JohnnyM on this one. I went into the store intending on getting a DLP. But when I saw an LCD sitting next to it, the difference was staggering. The DLP's colors were more muted, and the overall picture wasn't as crisp as the LCD. Think of that soft focus lense they use on The View, only you're trying to watch the Horns game.
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