Penders Stepping Down at UH

can we bring him here for our offensive coordinator?
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hmmm, age 64, heart problem, but has device implanted. I'm guessing he's done, but you never know.

Funny how he has what we need. offensive mind, and no I'm not suggesting getting rid of Barnes, but man, too bad we couldn't hire Tom as an offensive consultant. That would probably drive Rick to drink.

Houston would be better off recruiting Houston area. Billy Cylde ought to make it interesting.
 
i met him one of my years at texas. he gave a talk about the upcoming basketball season and how there were three exciting freshman coming in -- chris mihm, luke axtell, and bernard smith. unfortunately, that didn't turn out so well for him. but it was strange having a head coach of a major sport giving a coffee talk to a small student group. i wish him well.

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ran into johnny moore in 2003 on our way to final four. he got pissed how people kept mentioning how barnes or penders "made us relevant" or "put ut bb on the map". i agree. abe didn't do a bad job guys and i was there during those years. we can have a pissin match on the records and all that, but the fact is, we had some good teams before tommy or rick
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Johnny Moore can get his nose out of joint all he wants, but "the Runnin' Horns" were the beginning of Texas' appearance on the national scene as a basketball team to be reckoned with year in and year out.
 
top, I agree, but it's different levels of excellence. If Wacker doesn't go down in Waco, obviously that team would have almost certainly won an NCAA tournament game.

Abe laid the foundation, the team won the NIT, but never won an NCAA tournament game. I don't remember but I don't think Abe ever won the conference either.

Then Weltlich, of all coaches, ties for the conference championship, that was the year the three seniors took their pictures in front of the sold out sign in front of the drum.

Did Kaiser Bob win an NCAA tournament game? I don't think so, but not sure.

edit, Penders, not Barnes, was the first modern day coach to get some NCAA wins. Barnes gets the award for consistently making it to the NCAA tournament.

obviously the lack of teams in the tourney hurt Abe big time. in today's world, a team that was ranked and a runner-up in a conference makes it to the NCAA tournament.
 
Barnes did not take Texas to its first final four. Bully Gilstrap did, followed by Jack Gray. Texas went to the Finall Four in 1943 and 1947, the second time being led by Slater Martin, who is the only former Texas player in the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame.
 
He won alot of games and graduated alot of kids in his decades in this game. I had the chance to visit with him waiting on a VERY late plane out of Hobby right after he had taken the UT job. Very charming guy. But he said he knew he did have a problem awaiting him: basically he said "if a kid does not have a legit chance to get a degree here in 5 years, I probably am not going to recruit him". At the time he had had only 2 or 3 players in his career at the other schools that did not get their degrees.

Of course I was just happy he wasnt Bob Wet-lick.
 
<Funny how he has what we need. offensive mind>

No, Tom had a promoters mind for marketing the program. If I recall correctly, Tom said that his asst. coach, Ciampaglio suggested the running offense, and TP told him to figure it out, install it, and run it.

Later, Ciampaglio got in some trouble with accounting for expenses, or whatever, and was let go. The offense went downhill after that. In the later years it seemed as if the offense was, "just shoot". That is an oversimplification, but not that far off.
 
I started watching Horns basketball in 1990, the year my big sister matriculated on the 40. I was, at the time, ironically, also a UH fan. Penders did some great things for this university. He definitely got Texas back on the map which made things a little easier for Barnes.

Penders also did some pretty unsavory things in his career, but I'm glad to see him go out on top - making an improbable tournament birth while coaching the nation's leading scorer. I think he'll make a good analyst somewhere.
 
wow! Are you sure about the Ciampaglio being the offensive genius? I say that because I saw Houston the other day, and they looked like they really knew what they were doing offensively. It kind of reminded me of Texas, because they couldn't rebound worth a flip, had a moonballer kind of like Lance Blanks, and had great movement without the ball.

Maybe Tom learned from Jamie? Now talk about a great assistant. If Jamie really was the responsible person, he would be worth millions in today's basketball world.
 
the state of A&M pre gillispie is right about where you're talking about. no one cared about basketball, reed arena was a multi use facility that could do basketball, and our recruiting sucked.

i think that's the exact situation that he'd thrive in. he'd work those players into submission and i think he'd win big.
 
did any of you guys actually watch the Houston game the other day? I'm talking about how they were leading the higher seeded team and NOT having a good game FG% wise.

They actually moved without the ball, in fact very well, they were getting plenty of good shots inside and outside. They were ahead 22-17 at one point, they were really taking it to the other team, but they couldn't rebound to save their lives, and they weren't hitting a very good FG% at all.

I'm telling you guys, they totally outclassed us from an offensive gameplan point of view. They had an offense that provided many open looks, and they had the leading scorer in the NCAA.

I'm dead serious maybe Tom learned something from Jamie, if that is true about Jamie coming up with the offense.
 
Penders and the Runnin' Horns were the reason I bought season tickets for basketball. Loved 'em. Followed them to the Southwest Conference tournaments in Dallas. Thought Tom was great. Ran into him at 7-11 in Austin just before a SWC tournament and said: "I'll be there to root for the Horns this weekend."

His response? "You'll be one of the few Texas fans in the stands." Jumped in his Caddy and left.

Still thought he was the best thing that ever happened to Texas basketball until the father of girl dating a Texas basketball player detailed his nighttime phone calls and rants to the player. Was stunned. Thought it was exaggerated, but the dad was adamant it was all true.

Lost all respect. Then Axtell spoke up.

Then George Washington where his childhood friend had to eventually fire him.

Sorry, I have no respect nor kind feelings left for this man. He used kids and lied, repeatedly. And in my opinion, Jamie Ciampaglio was the reason for the Horns success in the Penders years.
 
I feel the same way as Dogbert. Penders last season here was a disaster and, if allowed to stay another year, we would have been fielding a team of walkons. He kept saying that would have been his Final 4 team, but everyone would have transfered. Instead, Barnes came in, took a team with a 6 man rotation and won the Big 12. Never understood why we had to pay him off to leave, but yesterday's press conference at UH was the same BS as his exit here. I'm sure his closed door meeting with his AD went a little differently. Agreed, he took UT basketball to a new level, but his inflated ego almost took us back to the talent level at the beginning of the Weltlich era.
 
My son went to almost every one of Pender's summer camps and while he was here, Ciampaglio essentially ran the thing while Tom headed to the golf course. I have no doubt he was the driving force behind the team's uptempo style.

To elaborate on his resignation, he was accused of withholding player's meal money and they found it in his freezer at home. I believe the Travis County DA's investigation ceased and no charges filed when restitution was made to UT.

I do believe he is still coaching JC ball up in the hinterlands. A googling shows it to be County College of Morris in New Jersey.
 
I'm really confused.

1. If Jamie was the architect, why isn't he a big-time head coach somewhere? The meal money scandal wouldn't stop a true offensive genius, imo, am I dead wrong?

2. Nobody has any explanation for Tom having such a great run at the end of this season. And I guess I was the only hornfan to watch the last UH game, and see an offense that could run circles around our offense, with the NCAA #1 leading scorer. If they could rebound worth a lick, they would have beaten a #3 seed. Folks, that would have been an extreme rarity, a 14 beating a 3.

Tom is one of four? coaches to take four different teams to the NCAA tournament? Was that all luck or what?

I think you guys are confusing being an *** with being a good coach. You can be both at the same time.
 
I don't think anyone considered Jamie C. an offensive genius. He installed an uptempo running game, and ran it effectively. When he left, it was much less effective, and more hully-gully. I'm sure that the allegations against him hurt his reputation enough to keep him out of the bigtime, but I haven't heard anything about him lately, other than the previous post.





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'ran it effectively', I would consider it to be much more than just 'ran it effectivelly', when the team goes to Elite 8 with just the three big scorers. Other than Panama, did we ever have a good inside threat?

Minimizing the Penders era because he was an *** doesn't make sense. Attendance was 3000 before Penders, he came really close to filling the drum.

Actually the only two coaches to come close to filling the drum were Abe and Tom. If Jamie was really responsible for an O that took us alll the way to within one shot of the final four, then I'm sure it would have gotten out by now, and he would have an extremely high paying job at some point in his career.
 
while I was in school the offense was Roderick Anderson, Reggie Freemen, and Brandy Perryman jacking up 3s all day. It worked most nights but come tourney time we needed luck to go with it for a win or two
 
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