Packers offer Favre $20mil to stay retired

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Honestly can say that I haven't heard that one before. It's best for the team since they have clearly moved on, but it sounds kind of insulting too. I don't see how he could accept it.

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This is solely on the packers. They have handled this situation about as bad as possible. This has nothing to do with Brett. They don't want him to play for them (their best player of all-time), they don't want him to play for anyone else and they offer to pay him 20 mil just to stay retired? That's just sad.
 
There is a lot of wrong on both sides, but I just don't see why the Packers won't just trade him to the Vikings and be done with it. I know it is a nightmare scenario for them, but everyone will know why they did it and they could take the high road.

You know the Vikings would give a good package for him.
 
People pilling on Favre are morons. Dude decided he wants to work again. No law against that. A hall of fame QB that still has ability wants to play for you.... poooooor packers. They don't want him, release him.
 
Originally I was on the Packer side of this issue. However, I now believe that they are tools. First, if I was a Packer fan, I would be pissed that they are rebuffing Favre's effort to return to GB in the first place. They were a field goal away from the Super Bowl last season and these windows don't last long. It is crazy to expect Aaron Rodgers to lead them to the Super Bowl based on one half of football in the Dallas game wherein he picked on Evil Roy. It is fair to expect Favre to lead them there or at least contend for the NFC title.

Instead they feel that it is Aaron's "time" and that he deserves his shot. That is commendable. However, statiscally Rodgers will likely be average to ******, which is where most QBs in the NFL end up. There are truly only 5-6 game changing QBs in the NFL today... Manning, Brady, Palmer, Romo, Manning and maybe Hasselback. There are some solid guys like Big Ben, Rivers, VY, Brees, Schaub. The rest pretty well blow. Favre is in the first category. Chances that Rodgers will be are not good.

GB is gambling with a team that is championship caliber and throwing an unproven talent at the most important position. See Minnesota Vikings 2007 to figure out how that can go. Do I think Rodgers is better than Tavaris Jackson, yes. Do I think that he is good enough to win a Super Bowl, hell no. That should be GB's goal this year and Favre gives them the best opportunity for that.
 
nobody is going to give the Packs a 1st rounder. That's ridiculous and pathetic to even ask for that much. Shows just how far off the edge they are as an organization. This is about two men (the HC and the GM) trying to make their own legacy in green bay and nothing else. How can anyone blame Farve for this?
 
Contrary to some of the sentiments on this board, Favre is not above his share of the blame for this issue. Last summer he held the team "hostage" while pondering retirement. Now, just a few short months ago, Favre had a tearful goodbye saying his heart is just not in the preparation required. So everyone applauds him as he rides off in the sunset.

The Packers say goodbye and turn an eye to the future. Now they get yanked 180 degrees because BF says he's showing up to practice. He has put the organization in a pickle through his actions. The Packers never forced him to retire in the first place. I think he is coming off a bit arrogant, selfish, and definitely wishy-washy.

I have no vested interest in any of this but have been a fan of BF. However, I think he has had a big hand in creating this mess.
 
teams screw players all of the time... i'm with Favre on this one. he decided to retire... change his mind... changed his mind... and changed his mind again.

if he was injured or couldn't play, they'd cut him and not give a ****. he's not injured and he can play. deal with it. The team's options are:
1. keep him
2. trade him
3. cut him

they don't have to start him if they keep him. the can start rodgers or brohm or whomever.

i'd trade him and be done with it. you aren't going to get much, but you weren't going to get anything if he retired. move along.
 
what a ******* world we live.
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Contrary to some of the sentiments on this board, Favre is not above his share of the blame for this issue. Last summer he held the team "hostage" while pondering retirement. Now, just a few short months ago, Favre had a tearful goodbye saying his heart is just not in the preparation required. So everyone applauds him as he rides off in the sunset.
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Not only that, Fav-re told the Packers last Spring he was thinking of coming out of retirement. The Packers said great, we are thrilled and planned to release it to the press the next week. Fav-re comes back and says he is going to stay retired. Packers go through draft thinking Fav-re is not coming back, make all their moves on that assumption. He then changes his mind again over the summer.

Look, the Packers want to move on, and I don't blame them. Fav-re can't make up his mind on what he wants to do. The Packers made all their money moves based upon no Fav-re when they wanted him to come out of retirement but he stiffed them again.

Now, if they aren't going to play him, I don't see why they won't let him go, b/c it is kind of a dick move but it is a business decision and that is the way it is.
 
As a giant Favre and Packers fan, I'm with the team on this one.

the guy retired. They drafted based upon that fact and took a QB in the first round to ensure they filled that need in case Rodgers doesnt work out.

Now Brett wants to come back and play for whoever he wants. Well, he is still under contract, and the Packers arent going to let him play for a division rival. There are teams that they have no problem trading him to, but Favre doesnt want to play for them. Its just a sad fact that the teams he is a "fit" for are the Bears and Vikings. And he isnt going there.

If he wanted to play he should have just said he was thinking about coming back this year. Rodgers is still there to fall back on, but they dont draft Brahm in the first round.

He made this bed, not them.
 
Another Packer/Favre fan, but I too am with the Packers on this one.

The Packers have been at a disadvantage the last several off-seasons because of Brett's indecisions. I'd think his actions have created challenges in the planning and execution of drafts, off-season player transactions, installing the next season's offense, and the development of Rogers.

As for Aaron, the line "It's Aaron Rogers' time" is a crock. That's just a euphemism for "Brett, we're tired of you screwing up our off-seasons".
 
Everyone needs to realize the Packers and Favre are playing the Vikings and Bears for chumps.

Favre is done. He's 38 years old, has been a wanker in the playoffs for ten years, is coming off his only good season in 3 years, and is the holder of every interception record known in NFLdom. Career total INT thrown. Career playoff INT thrown. Single game playoff INT thrown. Etc.

He was a loose cannon as a younger player who could be expected to stumble, fall to his knees, panic, and throw the ball to an oncoming linebacker, but he grew up to be a savvy veteran who had the understanding of the game to underthrow a ball to a blanketed receiver in his own territory on the first possession of overtime of the conference championship.

I mean, who would want this guy? Only two teams with decent playoff chances who are in competition with each other and neither of whom has a proven qb.

Now, how could the Packers sucker the Vikings or Bears into taking Favre on board to torpedo their chances for the Super Bowl? There's no way Viking or Bear management would fall for that one, unless. . .

Manufacture a big fight between Packer management and Favre. Yeah, that's it. Have Favre tearfully retire and the Packers draft another qb, then Favre comes back, and then there's a squabble with lots of accusation of "liar," and then balk at a bench role, and then balk at trades to non-contending teams, then balk at trades to non-cold weather teams.

One playoff meltdown later, the Vikings' Super Bowl dreams are dashed, a large contingent of the team is in mutiny against management, and Packer dominance of the division is assured for several years.

It would be brilliant if it weren't so obvious. I mean, c'mon, we're supposed to believe that after Favre went on national TV to say Thompson is a liar, Thompson went to Mississippi to beg Favre not to go to camp because Favre's arrival would cost Thompson his job?
 
Seriously, Brett Farve has AVERAGED 20 INT's per year over the past 5 years.

For comparable numbers:

Peyton Manning: Average of 10.6 per year. He had a five year high last year of 14. That's less that half of the one year high Favre had with 29.

Tom Brady: Average of 12 per year. He had 8 last year but the other 4 years were betwen 12 and 14 INT per year. VERY consistent.

Drew Brees: Average of 13.2 per year. I know that Brees isn't an elite QB but that's my point. He still throws 7 INT's per year less than Favre. That's about one every other game.

Matt Hassleback: 13.2 per year

McNabb: Not a fair comparison because he's had some injury shortened years lately but he's NEVER thrown more than 13 INT's in one season. So, his career high is a full 7 INT's below Favre's AVERAGE.

I could probably troll the entire history of the NFL and not find one QB who averaged 20 INT's over a 5 year span because any other QB's who throws that many picks gets benched.
 
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