Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs (err, “Clubs)

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I saw the book “Under and Alone” while traveling one time, and found it very interesting. It’s about an undercover ATF agent in the Mongols MC. So I went on a OMG kick, and read some other books about this topic, and watched some documentaries.

I’m not a biker, and my days of club and bar going are over, so the most I’ve ever seen of OMG is a couple of them riding around here in Houston.

Anyone have any interesting stories of interactions with these clubs? How about from other bikers? Are they live and let live types, as long as you don’t bother them, or do they take advantage of their numbers and act like jerks?
 
I've also read all of those books.

BTW; the "Yves Lavigne" that writes a lot of the books...is he the same guy that referees UFC fights?

The other book I really enjoyed was about the Alaska guy that got close to Sonny Barger.

Mel Gibson owns the movie rights to "Under", and is supposed to be making the film.
 
Bandidos only. My old barber was married to one and their aren't a bunch up here as far as I know. He was a really nice down to earth guy but I definitely wouldn't cross him. He could burn a hole in your soul with his eyes. She was a doll who I don't believe would marry a total psycho.
 
Highly recommend you read No Angel by Jay Dobyns about his undercover work. Very hard to put down.

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I have a buddy that is a federal prosecutor and he specializes in prosecuting these biker gangs. He has few good stories.

First, they are all involved in drug trafficking. That is how they make their money. A liitle bit of weapons too, but drugs are their primary trade.

For the most part, they actually are pretty live and let live types. They seem to know better than to attract a lot of attention to themselves. They do get rowdy when they get all chemicaled up but there are actually very few cases of Gangs hurting the general population.

My buddies experience is that the vast majority of them are dumb as rocks and just like the lifestyle. The leaders are street smart and pretty tough. One thing they have a creed on is their jackets are never supposed to touch the ground. My buddy was handling one during a trial and dropped it and received several death threats about it but nothing ever came of it.

The one thing that comes back a lot, is that if these guys had half a brain they would be almost impossible to catch. The vast majority of the times they are caught is through stupid doings of their own.

Ive seen some of those shows too about them and it is sort of fascinating.
 
I was sitting at a traffic liight on The Drag in my '56 Chevy back in '69 or '70. All of a sudden, I heard a roar and saw in my rear view mirror that dozens of Banditos were driving down the center of the traffic lanes to get up to the front of the line. The leaders went by me on both sides and the gang filled every empty spot around my car. My Chevy didn't have air conditioning, so I could have reached out and touched a couple of them. I was reluctant to stare too much, but the gal on the back of the bike in front of me had a leather sleaveless jacket that said, "This ***** don't fall off". They looked like a smelly, sweaty lot and I was glad when they roared off when the light turned green.

I'm sure those people all went on to make important contributions to society.
 
Interesting to hear about the death threats over the drop of their vest, but understandable in a way. It’s the “Mans” job to put them in the slammer for life, so that’s OK, but if they thought he was dis-respecting the Club then that’s different.

And yep, drugs (meth mostly) is how they all make their money, that and some stolen motor cycles. What else are they going to do? That’s one of the things that makes “Sons of Anarchy” unrealistic, along with the club members wearing their vests in cars, which is also a big no-go.

In “Under and Alone”, it was interesting to hear about how long of an application form they had, and how much of a background check they did. And yet, they still let the ATF agent in. You’d think the clubs would do something simple like make the prospects commit a felony in front of them. But when your Sergeant at Arms is a meth head too, the vetting process can make some mistakes.

Plus with any group like this, despite some warning sighs that Billy was a cop, they needed a member who was a functional member of society, with some money, ability to read, etc.

I haven’t read “No Angle” yet, but I suspect it’s probably something similar, where Jay Dobyns was such a good candidate that they overlooked the signals of him being undercover.
 
bronco, tell your federal prosecutor friend he is full of sh_ _. Every biker club makes money selling drugs.Please, typical no it all bs. He needs to get a life with his nonsensical prosecution of drug cases
 
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