OU 2009 recruiting

hornpharmd

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Need some help from OUE and others here.

Currently 6 guys have verballed. 4 defensive, 2 offensive. None are names that jump out at me.

Who is OU going after this year? Has OU's OL stabilized a bit so that they don't need to take 4-6 guys in this class?

Which guys in Texas is OU after and who do they have a good shot at landing?
 
Many of us have been puzzled as to our approach thus far. We're taking a lot of 'off the radar' kind of kids. Not that this is necessarily a 'wrong' approach, but just different from what we've gotten used to over the last several classes. Of the early verbals, it looks like 3 will be 4-stars and 3 will be 3-stars.

Ronnell Lewis is a kid who is going to blow up this year. He's from Dewar, OK, and has been playing 8-man football up to this point. His recruitment was over before it got started which will probably hurt his perception a little nationally, but he was dying to be a Sooner, so who cares? It was so weird when he committed b/c all of us were like, "What the hell?," but the coaches must've thought he was amazing on film and in person b/c normally we don't give much play to these small school kids. We were essentially the only school to offer. He is a classic OLB.

Jaydan Bird is part of the Brian Butler posse out of Kansas. He's a great athlete and fits the mold of a Brent V linebacker: tough, instinctual, explosive to the ball. He appears to be slated for MLB.

Johnathon Miller is from Garland. He put up sick numbers last year in a tough district. Honestly, I wasn't too impressed w/ his film. He doesn't appear to have much explosion. That said, there's something to be said for production, and he's had plenty of that. He reminds me of Chris Brown, who is one of current backs. That isn't a slight to Miller, either, as I respect Brown's ability quite a bit.

I'm thinking we take a max of 4 OL this year, but more likely 3. That position is kind of strange right now as well. We've got 5 returning starters, but will lose all 5 next year. We've got good depth, but little in the way of experience. I'm thinking we'll see a lot more of those kids this year to prepare for '09 when they'll be pressed into duty. The coaches are really high on Donald Stephenson and Cory Brandon and also think Good and Habern can contribute this season as well. We'll see.

As far as Texas kids, we seem seriously interested in Tom Wort, Chris Williams, Jamarckus McFarland, Casey Pachall, Jacob Karam, Ryan Mossakowski and Kevin Brent. There are several kids who've now moved to the forefront of the coaches' efforts and those include Uzoma Nwachukwu, Steven Terrell, Brandon Mahoney and Joel Gray. I think all of those are guys we can get at this point. We obviously offered several kids who've looked elsewhere (Craig Loston, Marcus Davis, Thomas Ashcraft, etc), but you asked who we're still pursuing.

I'd say we've got a great shot at Wort, Gray, Mahoney and Brent. We seem to be the favorite for Karam, but that relationship seems to have cooled over the last few months. I'd like to think we may get Pachall, but not sure where he's leaning. Mossakowski is hot with us right now also, but who knows?

The highest priority this class is on LB's and DB's. We're razor thin at LB right now and can't even field a 2-deep this spring b/c of injury. I'll bet Wort commits this weekend or shortly thereafter, as unlikely as it may seem. He's gonna see so few bodies, it wouldn't surprise me if Brent V. told him to suit up on the spot. He strikes me as the kind of kid who'd do it, too. He and Bird seem to be the epitome of a "Brent V. kid."

We've really focused on in-state kids this year, moreso than recently. That has more to do with it being an especially good year for D-1 talent in OK. Yes, UT has been cleaning house, but they usually get who they want early in the process, so that isn't anything too different than normal. In the end, we usually both get great classes. I'd bet the same holds true in '09 as well.
 
OU most likely won't have a top 5 class this year, but I'm sure it will still be a solid class. I do think OU will land Brent though.
 
Chris Williams, Mossakowski, Wort, Brent, Gray, Mahoney all seem like they would be great additions to OU's class and I haven't heard much about UT really going after any of them except Brent.

I am wondering how OU will do with QB recruiting. You listed Mossakowski, Karam, and Pachall. Bradfort and NIchol will be around for 3 more years and very well could scare many of these kids away...especially with Bradford's frosh season last year....similar to the effects of Colt's frosh season.

Gray would be a great addition at OL and I would have wanted him at UT if we hadn't already taken 4 other studs. Question is who else will OU go after there?..Kyle Clark?..Michael Brown? UT and A&M got in early and scooped up most of the top OL in the state and this was a very deep year for OL in Texas. Still some left but not much which leads me to think OU might be looking elsewhere?

Good news for OU is that this year you have experience and depth at OL. But like you said after 08 you will lose 5 senior starters. In 09 you will be left with 10 OL that will have either played some or redshirted but probably not started a good deal.....that 10 is not real deep and includes a couple of reaches that may not pan out anyways. For these reasons I agree that OU does need to continue to recruit 4 OL a year.

What top OOS guys is OU in on?
 
OU has offered only 3 QBs up to this point:

A.J. McCarron, QB Mobile, AL
Ryan Mossakowski QB Frisco, TX
Aaron Murray, QB Tampa, FL


Some of the big OOS names are:

Justin Chaisson DE, Las Vegas Bishop Gorman HS, NV (Demarco Murray/Ryan Reynolds/Kevin White - former HC and now current offensive GA all came from there)
Devon Kennard DE Phoenix, AZ 5*

Too many DB offers to list but a few big names are
Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5*
Eric Gordon CB Nashville
Several instate DBs have offers as well

Stoops is using the same aproach as last year for WR - offered about a dozen national talents and hope a few end up signing. The biggest names are probably Shaquelle Evans from California, Reuben Randle from Louisiana,
Je'Ron Stokes Phillidelphia (Committed to Tennesse) and Chris Evans (committed to Ohio State)

A couple of Austin kids you guys may be interested in Emory Blake and Jeremy Moore also have offers as well.


It's kinda hard to be succinct in talking about our offers since we've probably offered about 3X as many guys as you have but hope that helps.
 
In other words, based on the number of accepted OOS offers (many outside of Texas) this class can be good or great, but not likely outstanding.
 
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Hornpharmd-

Bradford is a redshirt sophomore. He'll be a junior when the '09 class steps on campus. Yes, OU does have 2 other QB's on scholarship, just like every other school in the country. They'll take their time and sign at least 1 QB in this class.

Crabby said tonight that he thinks Ronnell Lewis is the best commitment OU has- Justin Chaisson included. Chaisson is currently #27 on the Rivals100.

The Sooners will be heavy at linebacker and defensive back in this class. They'll probably take 5 of each in this class. Tom Wort should be an addition at LB, with Kevin Brent, Gabe Lynn and David Gordon expected to be picked up at DB.

Offensive line attrition is a thing of the past now that James Patton can play good cop to Jerry Schmidt's bad cop. Look for legacy Brandon Webb to take one spot, with 2 others likely to be taken.

I think the coaching staff sees Jonathan Miller as a guy who could end up at RB, WR or DB. They'll look to take one more guy from about 4 that they're looking at right now.

The Sooners need a deep threat at WR, and I'd expect to see 3 total on the commitment list on signing day with 1 TE also.

I tihnk we could see 2 DT's and DE's taken this year as well...

I don't keep up with recruiting like I used to in the past, but here's how I see it:

1 QB
1 RB
3 WR
1 TE
3 OL
2 DT
2 DE
5 LB
5 DB
 
Thanks for that breakdown. I agree with much of that based on needs.

I do think it is unfortunate for the Sooners that it is a down year in Texas at WR and this is a need for OU. They took some reaches in the 07 class but reloaded in 08 and need to continue to add 1 or 2 quality guys. OL isn't a pressing need but they do need to take a few every year regardless to avoid the mistakes of the past and unfortunately for them the top guys in Texas have already been scooped up. It will be interesting to see who they find at these 2 positions.

There are many QB's to choose from and again it will be interesting to see who they choose. I do think their current QB depth will scare recruits off just a bit though. And I think they could wait a year for QB if needed.

They should land some top DB's no problem...they had a good class in 07 but need to take a few extra to make up for 08.

LB's they already have 3 and I am sure they will have no problem finding a couple more. They did take 3 LB's in 07 and at least 4 in 08....so why is it that we hear that OU is paper thin at LB and needs to take 5 this year?

Don't hear much about DT. McCoy came in in 06 and Granger in 05. McCoy is a soph this year and Granger is a junior this year. They have only recruited 3 DT's over the last 2 classes and I would say that there were possibly 2 reaches there. Looks to me that OU is loading up at LB and DE and skipping over the DT position. I know UT has similar issues but think the reasons may be different for Sooners. Thoughts?
 
It is a down year for WR in Texas. OU has a commitment from Eric Ward and offers out to Brandal Jackson and Uzoma Nwachukwu. The OU coaches didn't see the same things in Timmons that many analysts and the Texas coaches did.

If Massakowski is the guy OU wants, they'll get him IMO. If he's the guy, I think it's possible that OU takes a 2nd QB to hedge against the MLB draft. Nathan Schneleesse out of Missouri could be that player.

The Sooners uncharacteristically missed out on their top 3 prep LB's last year in Arthur Brown, Lynn Katoa and John Major. Daniel Franklin is the only high schooler taken last year with JUCO's JR Bryant and Mike Balogun filling out the roster. Justin Johnson is playing RB and doing extremely well so far. In the '07 class Mike Reed, Travis Lewis and Austin Box were the 3 taken. Reed left school to care for his ailing wife and children, while Lewis and Box will be major contributors this year. Essentially, the past 2 classes have produced 3 preps and 2 JUCO's on campus. The scholarhip LB's in '08 will consist of 3 juniors, 3 sophomores, 2 RS Fr and 1 Fr. Fast forward a year to when the '09 class hits campus and you'll see just 3 underclassmen. OU needs LB's in this class.

At DT, IMO it will be a matter of whether Gerald McCoy wants to play out his eligibility, not if he's good enough to make the jump early. He's rapidly becoming a force inside. The coaches really like sophomore Adrian Taylor inside as well. '08 signee Stacey McGee played at a slim 6'6 250 last year and has the frame to carry a lot of weight. Check his Rivals profile and watch his wrestling match video. I don't know enough about Casey Walker to comment. For the '09 class, I personally like McGee's high school teammate Robert Thomas. He'll a 6'0 290lb run stuffer with a decent first step. Outside of the Big 2 in Texas, I really don't know though who OU will go after, and I expect they'll need to look at Plan B. I do think OU will take at least 1 more DE and possibly 2 with the llikelihood of Justin Chaisson growing into a DT along with McGee.
 
Not only are we thin at WR, we are especially thin in the slot where we only have two true slot WRs in Manuel Johnson and Ryan Browles. Adding Eric Ward helped as he is a burner but I expect 1 or 2 more offers at WR to go to slot players. The kid from Allen can play inside or out, so he could fill one of those spots but I look for us to look to the West Coast or Florida for another speed slot guy.

Thanksfully, we've got four LBers committed in this class already as it is our most pressing need.

I also only look for 3-4 OL offers as we've got some quality redshirts and true freshmen that will alleviate next year's graduation losses.
 
Add another LB for OU (Wort)...that gives them 4 now.

1 RB
1 WR
2 DE
4 LB
2 DB

Still no OL added and am starting to wonder what is out there for them at this position. They shouldn't have a problem landing a few more DB's. Otherwise their class shaping up as expected.....very heavy on defensive side of things.

I still thing DT has to be a huge position of need right now...at least looking ahead.
 

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