#OscarsSoWhite Solution...

texas_ex2000

texas_ex2000

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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-et-mn-academy-voting-diversity-20160120-story.html

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences will weigh new rules intended to encourage more diversity among its membership and its nominations, The Times has learned.

The academy's 51-member Board of Governors has added the diversity issue to the agenda for its regularly scheduled meeting Tuesday night in response to an outcry over an all-white slate of acting nominees for the second year in a row, according to a person briefed on the matter.

Among the options the board could choose are expanding the number of films in the best picture category to 10 every year, expanding the number of acting nominees in each category and changing the way the academy invites new members by allowing prospective members to put themselves forward, rather than waiting to be asked.
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I mean, really who cares? But if you are a film and art fan, like some of us on hornfans, isn't this tokenism?
 
Of the idea mentioned, the one of allowing prospective members to bring themselves forward seems to have merit.

Tokenism is transparent and devalues the process.

I know we all take a little of our culture into our tastes. I'm smart enough to realize that my race and rearing have a lot to do with why I don't like to listen to Jay Z, but enjoy Taylor Swift music. A country boy, I was excited to buy tickets to The Revenant, not so much Straight out of Compton.

More diversity among voters seems the only realistic solution.
 
I haven't really kept up with movies released in the past year...were there persons of color who actually had good roles AND performed them well and should have been nominated but were not?
 
They should just make The Academy Awards like a kid's swim meet. Everybody who participates gets a trophy, even if your only starring role was in The Human Centipede 5.
 
Political correctness, tokenism and shallow Hollywood idiots. I can think of few topics less worthy of my time and mental energy.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Political correctness, tokenism and shallow Hollywood idiots. I can think of few topics less worthy of my time and mental energy.
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I completely agree...

But that stuff, PC identity politics, unfortunately now affects our arts and education. And Black Lives Matters is a wedge issues in the election.
 
'As a person of colour I'd be happy if they'd just pick movies that people have actually seen,' said Che, giving examples of The Room and Brooklyn that 'no one has seen'.
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^ I agree with Michael Che's joke from Saturday Night Live. It seems like they pick bad movies that no one has seen all too often.
 
texas_ex2000 said:
I completely agree...

But that stuff, PC identity politics, unfortunately now affects our arts and education. And Black Lives Matters is a wedge issues in the election.
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It does affect our arts and education. However, maybe it's because I live in Germany (though I'm actually in Dallas until Thursday), I'm almost completely disengaged from the movie business and culture. In fact, other than Star Wars, I can't identify a single movie to be released in the last year.

And I like it that way.
 
It seems to me the people doing the complaining this year think there actually are different classes of movies separated by race.

How is that doing them any favors separating themselves by saying if there are no black nominees that the show is crap? The winning argument would be to say XYZ deserves to be nominated over ABC because of XXX and the number 12. Bringing race into it causes me to believe the people who are saying these things only/mostly watch movies that focus or pertain to their race?
 
Mr. Deez said:
It does affect our arts and education. However, maybe it's because I live in Germany (though I'm actually in Dallas until Thursday), I'm almost completely disengaged from the movie business and culture. In fact, other than Star Wars, I can't identify a single movie to be released in the last year.

And I like it that way.
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Dude, I think you're a new dad changing diapers, but you gotta get out and see some movies. Revenant, Ex Machina, The Martian...Creed!
 
texas_ex2000 said:
Dude, I think you're a new dad changing diapers, but you gotta get out and see some movies. Revenant, Ex Machina, The Martian...Creed!
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I'll look into them because you probably have good judgment on this sort of thing, but you may as well be speaking Swahili. I've never heard of any of those. That's how disconnected I am.
 
Mr. Deez said:
It does affect our arts and education. However, maybe it's because I live in Germany (though I'm actually in Dallas until Thursday), I'm almost completely disengaged from the movie business and culture. In fact, other than Star Wars, I can't identify a single movie to be released in the last year.

And I like it that way.
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I see about 1-2 movies a year, so I'm no expert. But you absolutely have to see Room. I have been to movies before where a tear welled up in the corner of my eye, but this produced my first full-on cry. True story (the cry, and the movie).
 
Is the problem really that there aren't enough African Americans playing lead or supporting roles?
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Compared to percentage of the total US population, one could argue that blacks are over-represented to some degree (not saying I necessarily would argue that, but it's at least possible). Other races/ethnicities probably are under-represented compared to the total US population - and also seem to have a tougher time transcending race. By that I mean, guys like Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, and Denzel Washington can play "black characters", but most often they seem to play characters that could have been any race end just end up being whatever race their actor is. But this seems less true for most other non-caucasian actors.
 
I once tried to get financial aid by listing myself as African American. I think my German last name raised eyebrows because they called me in and told me I didn't look African. I pointed out that in a physical anthropology class I took at UT they told us we all descended from Africans. I pointed out that my family apparently left a little earlier than others. They were amused by not convinced and I kept washing dishes and changing tires for another year. I sympathize with Sister Streep's comment but don't think it likely to affect the conversation.
 
huisache said:
I pointed out that in a physical anthropology class I took at UT they told us we all descended from Africans.
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That's true, I think we're all descended from "Eve", a dark-skinned African woman who lived 200,000 years ago or so. At least that's what Time Magazine was putting out back when they were relevant.

But Political Correctness doesn't care about the truth. They just care about their own interpretation of the truth.
 
My wife and I have always enjoyed watching the Oscars but tonight I shut it off after 30 minutes. Chris Rock literally talked about nothing else.
I didn't hear him complaining about Mexicans or Asians being under represented.
 
CBS may be happy with all liberal dogma Rock, DiCaprio, and Co. were able to spew out (I didn't watch it. I'm going by what I hear and read), but the TV ratings were the lowest in 8 years. I think a lot of people deliberately avoided it.
 
I have no interest in watching the Oscars, Grammy's or any other pretentious awards show. Besides, I got to hear the highlights of Rock's monologue on nearly every radio news show on the way to work.
 
I have no interest in watching the Oscars, Grammy's or any other pretentious awards show. Besides, I got to hear the highlights of Rock's monologue on nearly every radio news show on the way to work.
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^ this. The oscars are for bunch of 1%ers (regardless of their race) arguing about who gets made up, subjective awards for being the best at pretending on camera.
 
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