Obama: you can trust political power

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Transcript: Obama’s Commencement Speech at Ohio State -- The Link

"They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices."
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he revealed himself to be a really small petty mean spirited man with many parts of that speech

Sadly the droolers won't care and neither will the people getting obama stash money

Thomas Jefferson was speaking about a man like BO and his supporters

it is sad because other parts of his speech were inspirational
 
Thomas Jefferson - a true American hero. He would be appalled at what is happening today. And he should be, as well as all of those who put their lives and fortunes on the line to free our country from an oppressive government.
 
Just that he says we have to do this as a group and not as individuals, I am out.

I am an individual and I want my freedom, and I don't want any group taking it away from me, which is what I believe is happening to me.

When are we going to protect the individual vs. the group?

To hell with all this group/collective thinking.
 
Horns11, I think you are misapplying the quote you state. You are saying that fundamental, bedrock parts of our Constitution and political philosophy have to change. Based on what? Where in the world has government shown it is more trustworthy? Definitely not here in the US.

A more reasonable interpretation of Jefferson's quote would be in application to the needed changes in laws for developments like railroad, internet, airplanes, etc. A political system that doesn't keep up with technological changes is what Jefferson is talking about not that government will ever be inherently trustworthy. By your interpretation you have created a contradiction in his statements that is unnecessary and unreasonable.
 
I remember hearing that and being absolutely stunned by it. I wonder what the liberals think who grew up in the 60s? I guess once it's your guy in the white house, it's OK to blindly follow the government.

First thing that struck me is that the pres does love his strawmen. "People who think government is the source of all our problems." Almost no one is saying that, and frankly no one of any real consequence. But it's important for him to divide and demonize, so make sure today's youth knows that anyone who wants smaller government is trying to tell you that we should just get rid of the whole thing.

But the second thing was his concept of "this experiment in self-government". This is a favorite among many liberals - the idea that we are in fact "self-governing." It's either incredibly naive or it's a lie designed to keep the moderates in the party from freaking out when the people they send to Washington start talking about confiscating 401K's and things like that. "Hey, it's alright, we're self-governing! Those things will never really come to pass! You're in control!"

The fact is, we are NOT self-governed. We elect people to govern us. If you don't believe that, let's go see if we can get a meeting next week with our No. 1 employee. I'm betting he won't take our calls. He works for us ONLY in the strictest "Civics 101" sense. Once an official is elected he can do whatever he wants until his next election cycle - and if he covers his tracks well enough he doesn't even have to worry about that, because odds are people won't see what he's done until it's too late.

What Barak Obama is saying is that because we are "self-governed", then we're really sending people just like me and you to Washington. And you trust "me and you", right? So get out of their way and just know that they're doing what's best for you. Funny how when "people like me and you" are conservatives, all of a sudden they're evil white men trying to starve the poor and kill of the elderly.

I found the whole statement incredibly disingenuous and insulting.
 
First, I agree with the above poster in the gap of time from Jefferson's day to present.

Second, the group collective thinking was established by John Dewey a hundred years ago. It's been injected into government supported schools ever since.
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The thing is democracies only started in areas where generally the populace thought for itself and asked tough questions of government. When the society stops thinking critically the government immediately becomes authoritarian. It can even have the "democracy" label but it immediately becomes something different.
 
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