Number 1 Seed

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Fievel121

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Is it possible for Texas to get a 1 seed? I'm not very well versed on Bracketology. It seems to me having beat 3 of the top 6, but like I said, I'm not that knowledgable on this
 
It's very possible. We will likely need to win the rest of our regular season games - which is doable. I'm not predicting it, but it's not a giant stretch. If we can do that, we'll just need a couple of losses from the 6 teams ahead of us. There are still a lot of games left to played, and thus a lot of losses still left on the schedule of those teams. We are in the hunt at this point.

Of course, I'd rather have the #2 seed in Houston than the #1 seed anywhere else.
 
No. 1 seed will be very hard to get. Probably will need to win out, which I don't think we'll do.

I see two more losses. One regular season to either KSU or T Tech, then one to KU in the Big 12 final.

That still might get us a #2 seed. If we have only one more loss, I think a #2 seed is very likely.
 
Guys, it will take something pretty unexpected for us to fall below a #2 seed at this point. We are solid there right now with some cushion built in.
 
Win out and yes. Who else can boast that they beat 3 of the top 6 right now?
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i agree with some of you. it is possible but i would not bet on it.
i dont care what seed we are 1,2 or 3 as long as we are in the Houston bracket. that is the MOST important thing.
 
#2 is a lock unless we lose out and a #1 is very possible if we only lose to KU or win out. Also don't forget that Tennesse still has to play Memphis so one of them will likely fall below us making Texas #6 at least. Either way a #2 in Houston or #1 anywhere would be awsome.
 
Memphis isn't going to drop below us with 1 loss....I think we realistically need at least 3 or 4 teams in front of us to have 4 losses a piece for us to think about getting a 1.
 
UCLA will lose at least 1 more, my guess is 2. Ku may go unbeaten, duke plays UNC, and both will prolly drop another one as well. so that's puts them at 4 losses....
 
RPI just jumped past Ku to #5. Duke/NC and Memphis /Tenn play each other. Two losses guranteed for those above us. We just need to keep winning.

Neophyte here. but, anyway we can get #1 seed in Houston or is this a Memphis lock? I would take a #2 in Houston over a #1 anyeherew else, for sure. Thanks
 
I don't think it's far fetched at all, honestly. You can make a case as of right now that we should be seeded above UCLA, KU, UNC and Tennessee simply do to our quality wins which makes us one of the 4 number one seeds.

In fact do you know UNC and Kansas have no wins over anyone in the polls currently. Their best wins are Clemson twice and USC, respectively.
 
They basically have to win out unless KU falls flat. Memphis, Duke/UNC and Tennessee are in very good shape for ones right now. Texas has to beat out Kansas. Now, if Tennessee were to drop a couple...

It's somewhat amazing that we can talk seriously about this right now.
 
I don't see why UNC should be a such a lock in all the mock brackets around the country, to be honest. In fact with clemson out of the top 25 they have no wins over anyone currently in the top 25.

I know they are without Lawson, but that doesn't change the fact they haven't beaten anyone significant. They deserve the same viewpoint as Kansas right now.
 
I'm perfectly happy being a #2 seed going to Houston. I wouldn't want to be the 4th #1 seed in a bracket sending us anywhere besides Houston.

Unless, of course, we're a #1 and we still get to go to Houston...then it would be very similar to 2003 in which we a had a great point guard, were a somewhat controversial #1 seed that a lot of people thought would be the first #1 to lose, got to play in a Regional in Texas, and made it to the FINAL FOUR.
 
b/c they are UNC you know they'll get the nod over us. Did you hear Digger talking about who is the player of the year at half time? He honestly said he thinks Hansborough(sp?) is better then Beasley despite all statistics. You could tell it's just b/c he plays on UNC.

I'm not sure if the favoritism is bigger at ESPN with college football or basketball. TH is a great player make no mistake about it but for god's sake Beasley is #4 in scoring, #1 in rebounding and he's a flippin' freshman. In conclusion, Digger sucks.
 
I really would hope the committee wouldn't hand out number 1's to teams simply do to the name on the front of the jersey. Kansas and UNC should both be two seeds right now based on a lack of quality wins.

And I agree with you on beasley, but hansbrough deserves to be in the conversation.
 
Two weeks ago I could see a #2 as opposed to "just" a #3.

After the Kansas win, I smelled a possible No. 1 seed.

- Beat KU on Big Monday with a solid game that was also an outstanding game just to watch as a fan. It was not sloppy. It was outstanding defensive disciplined BB.

- won the next two including ANOTHER Big Monday win by 27 pt over #22 aTm.

- scheduled for yet ANOTHER -- the third straight Big Monday. This game is key. Hold our own and pull out a win, and then we look all the better.

Figure also this, as pointed out tonight by the ESPN game announcers: Horns at #7 have wins against the #6, #5 and #3 teams. No one else can claim that. I looked up the records and it shows this:
Today's top 6 ranked teams have lost 11 games, combined.
Three of those were to #7 ranked Longhorns.

Memphis, unbeaten.

#2 Tenn, with losses to #7 Texas (at home), unranked Kentucky

#3 North Carolina, with losses to #5 Duke, unranked Maryland

#4 Kansas, with losses to #7 Texas (on the road), #24 K-State

#5 Duke, with losses to unranked Pitt, unranked Wake Forest

#6 UCLA, losses to #7 Texas (at home), unranked USC, unranked Washington

#7 Texas, losses to #19 Mich-State, #11 Wisconsin, #22 A&M, unranked Missouri

Horns remaining games include #22 Aggies, #24 K-State next Monday. One down, one to go on those two.

But notice, only Duke has beaten one of these top 6 ranked teams.
No team in the top 6 here has beaten as highly ranked a team as the Longhorns, other than Duke winning against currently #3 UNC.

Pretty impressive!!

To answer the question:

Either Duke or UCLA could lose a #1 Seed to the Longhorns.
I give the edge to Duke to lose it, followed by UCLA.
It will be hard to put Tennessee or UCLA over the Longhorns if the Horns finish the season with no more than 6 losses. If they lose one or two very close games down the stretch to outstanding teams in difficult venues (like on the road at K-State or in the Big XII tourney) they can go in as #1 seed.

I think Memphis and Kansas are favorites to not push out of a #1 seed, but I think Duke and UCLA have to not falter or they lose a spot to the Horns.
 
We win the rest of our conference games (which will be quite difficult to do), and it very likely we will be a 1 seed...

However, I do not know who would be the 1 seed in Houston if both us and Memphis were 1 seeds. Memphis is a little bit closer to Houston (South) than Detroit (Midwest). They are very close to Charlotte (East), but I would have to assume Duke/UNC will be the 1 seed in the East (unless they both drop another game before they play each other at the end of the season).
 
Memphis is a little bit closer to Houston than to Detroit, but I could definitely see Texas getting the #1 in Houston and Memphis getting it in Detroit.
 
I would have never considered this.

But I am running out of reasons for it not to happen if we win out.

We have GOT to be in the top 4 if we don't lose again.

I would have been tickled pink with a 3 seed last week.
 
The head of the selection committee has already said they will do what they did last year and that is pick the "best" teams for the top seeds instead of the "most deserving". This is not good when it comes to Texas, because they are not perceived to be on the same level as UNC and UCLA, despite their resumes for a top seed being at least as good at this point. Last year, Florida was the overall #1 even though their resume wasn't as good as some other teams. Did they have the best potential and at times look the best? Absolutely, and they proved it during the tournament. But they weren't the most deserving based on what they did in the regular season. They underachieved, especially the last couple of weeks of the regular season, up until the conference tournament.

For UT to get a 1 seed, not only do they have to continue to win, but they need to grab national headlines. Leave it to Andy Katz, the best college hoops writer out there, to mention even before the A&M game that Texas should get some consideration for a 1 seed. After destroying A&M on national TV, UT will definitely get a little more attention. But they'll need to win at KSU before the topic gets really serious.

Someone mentioned Tennessee's schedule, and that's the best hope for the real UT to sneak to the 1 seed. Tennessee has struggled on the road lately, even though they've pulled out every game except at Kentucky. They have three tough road games at Memphis, Vanderbilt and Florida. All three are losable games, and we need to cheer for the Vols to lose them all. Oddly enough, we also need to cheer for UCLA to WIN so they can get the 1 seed out west, meaning UT won't be shipped out there as the 1 with UCLA the 2. The best way UT gets a 1 seed in Houston is if UCLA gets Phoenix, Memphis is sent to Detroit and Duke or UNC get Charlotte.

If UT finishes 13-3 in conference, meaning they win 5 of their last 6, and then make it to the finals of the Big XII Tournament, they should be no worse than a 2 in Houston, which we'd all be happy about. They would also more than likely be the one seed in the Big XII Tourney, which will be huge perception-wise and get them closer to a 1 seed. But to avoid the one seed in the West, Tennessee has to start losing.
 
there really is not much difference between a 1 and 2 seed, if you win out, you have to play each other anyway....
 
I really don't have much doubt that if we win out, we are a 1 seed. I mean Kansas and UNC don't even have a single win over a ranked team. Winning out will be difficult, but if we do it, we are pretty much a lock.

I will put money on that.
 
IF Texas wins out, and that's a big IF and includes winning the Big 12 tournament, I don't see how it would miss out on a #1 seed, unless Tennessee wins at both Memphis and Vanderbilt and UCLA wins out.

Texas winning out through the Big 12 tournament means Texas would be on a 14 game winning streak and Kansas loses along the way. Texas would pass KU.

Duke and UNC would have to combine for at least two losses, since they have a head to head match up and will be in the ACC tournament. Texas would pass at least one of those two, but one of them keeps a #1. Even if they meet in the ACC tournament and split the two remaining games, the ACC isn't getting two #1 seeds.

That leaves Memphis, Tennessee and UCLA. Texas has to pass one of those three. Lately, Tennessee has been winning squeakers on the road. I don't see them winning in at both Memphis and Vanderbilt. Would Tennessee with 3 losses and the title of a weaker conference (this year) get a #1 over a 4 loss team that smoked it in December on a neutral floor? Tennessee does have some very good wins (@Xavier, Vanderbilt), but unless it beats Memphis, its quality wins don't match Texas's.

That leaves UCLA with three losses, one at home to Texas, and which has yet to play the Pac-10 tournament (which they play at the Staples Center in LA for the 7th straight year and will through 2012--why did non-LA schools agree to this arrangement?), games at ASU and Arizona, and a game with Stanford at home. UCLA has to win out to stay ahead of Texas for a #1 seed, even assuming UCLA is currently ahead, of which I'm not sure.

Of course, a single loss along the way probably puts Texas with next to no chance for a #1 seed. A lot of Barnes's teams have seemed to kind of mail in the Big 12 tournament, though last year's team certainly didn't.

But more to the point, is this the FOCUSNESS we want?

Let's mudhole ou. They suck.
 
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