New Study shows half the warming in the US false

[mop]

Turns out Anthony Watts, with the help of several others has released a paper showing that half of the warming between 1979-2008 (a period which accounts for ALL of the warming between 1942 and now) is artificial caused to poor station siting. When the poor stations are removed, we see a 50% drop in the temperature increase. Yes, this is only the US, but it is widely believed that the US has one of the most sophisticated ground based temperature monitoring systems in the world, so this does not bode well for the rest of the world.

Watts et al

Oh and before people try to minimize this because Watts was involved, look at the study and the methods. One of the guys one the team is a statistical genius who exposed the Hockey Stick graph.

 

[mop]

oh, if you have never seen this, it is worth a watch. It is called "The Great Dying of Thermometers" and references the fact that TONS of thermometers began to not be included over the past few decades which is at least highly suspicious;

the great dying of thermometers

 

[pasotex]

I also have a pre-publication paper showing warming is double what the stations show. Should we publicize this?

You have four quacks without any ducks. There is a reason that this will never survive peer-review because it is garbage like everything else Watts does.

 

[mop]

great paso! so since i know you wouldn't use a flagrant ad hominem as your argument, i am sure you have a substantial argument against the actual paper rather than just an attack on the authors. so what is your substantive critique of the paper itself, because I must have missed that in your last response (which sounded like something from a 6th grade playground debate).

 

[pasotex]

My substantive attack against this "paper" is that it is not peer reviewed. I also strongly suspect that it will never be peer reviewed because it is garbage. Is it really my burden to disprove everything Watts just makes up?

There are plenty of peer reviewed temperature reconstructions. Are these really problematic?

 

[mop]

that is almost entirely lacking in substance actually.

and yes, there are plenty of good reasons to question current peer reviewed temperature reconstructions. regardless, we have 15 years of virtually flat temperatures so that's not going away for now. maybe next year?

 

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