near death experiences

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even though i am a minister and have my own thoughts about such things...i have not given too much thoughts to the implications of such things until very recently. but this story at least lends credibility to a mind body distinction (as in mind/brain distinction) and that would imply (if being correctly understood) something like a spirit or a soul.

any thoughts?


near deah experiences of blind patients
 
my thoughts are that she could easily be making this up.

I know that is a snippy, "hornfans" type of reply, but I was looking for more verifiable stuff that she "saw" with enough detail to indicate that she was just not telling a 'story". i can't find any of that in there.
 
Having been born blind, she wouldn't know what color is - she's never seen it.

Just like color blind people can't tell you what certain colors are.

So believe in it or not, that isn't sufficient to negate her story.
 
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her quote did not require that she knew those colors, only that she knew (which she would) that her rings are made of gold and the other metal and that one has orange blossoms in the design......

evidently there have been about 20 such cases where blind people had NDEs and were able to describe things they had never seen. strange, but i would like to read something more before i let it be too much of a consideration. i just read about it in a realistic fiction book about a serial killer and found it fascinating.
 
It’s certainly an interesting story, but the problem with it is that every single detail in her account is something she could have easily had prior knowledge of, and some of the details she very likely would have had prior knowledge of (should we really be impressed that she was able to describe what she was wearing, when presumably she already knew what she was wearing?).At the very least, there is nothing in her descriptions that she couldn’t have had prior knowledge of, despite the fact that she's blind.

In fact, I just realized something: the article implies, but never actually states, that the details in her description were correct. Which is a pretty strange thing to omit, unless some of the details she described were NOT correct.

Of course, even if the details were accurate, unless she was able to describe specifics that she had no way of knowing about (either through direct observation or from being told by someone else) the story is hardly compelling evidence of any kind of mind/body distinction.
 
As a Christian I found it heart warming and encouraging. It is what I hope to, and belive I will, experience when I leave this world!
 
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