NCAA Transfer Season - 2017

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I could have sworn someone else started a thread about transfers that have been announced but I couldn't find it. Thought it would be nice to have a single thread for news and rumors.

So far the Big 10 is getting gut punched - 2 all conference underclassmen are leaving:
  • "Two-time All-Big Ten center Jessica Shepard says she plans to leave Nebraska to transfer to another school. Shepard made the announcement in a joint statement with coach Amy Williams on Monday. Shepard says she appreciates the support of her coaches and teammates, but moving to another school would be best for her future. Shepard was the 2016 Big Ten freshman of the year, and she was a second-team all-conference pick this season. She scored 1,112 points in two seasons, the fastest a player has reached 1,000 in program history. She averaged 18.6 points and 9.8 rebounds as the Cornhuskers went 7-22." (From ESPN)
  • Another All-Big Ten Second teamer who seems like she will transfer is Michigan freshman Kysre Gondrezick who averaged 15 points per game in her first season.
 
I didn't realize Shepard was so highly ranked - #3 in the 2015 class behind Katie Lou Samuelson and Asia Durr.
 
Boston College's leader in points, rebounds and blocks, 6' 5" center Mariella Fasoula is transferring.
 
Pittsburgh's leader in scoring and rebounds, 14.3 points and 6.4 rebounds per game, F Brenna Wise announced her transfer a week ago.
 
An overall question: Don't you think that when a player announces their plan to transfer they pretty much already have a landing spot picked out?
 
I would agree that a player considering a transfer most likely has a preferred landing spot. Unfortunately, that doesn't always mean that preferred school needs their skill set, or has a scholarship open for them.

Some may have had family/friends/AAU coaches do some preliminary vetting on their behalf to see if preferred school has an interest before player formally announces transfer.
 
Transfer from Coach Aston's first head coaching job. Common refrain from other transfers - team leader in points and rebounds.

Sophomore Grace Hunter (G - 5' 9") averaged a team-high 17.2 points per game, while grabbing a team-high 8.6 boards per game in her sophomore season. Hunter improved on her shot while at Charlotte, shooting just over 42 percent from three-point range her sophomore year, improving on her 24.4 percent from long range from her first year. Under head coach Cara Consuegra, Hunter also made progress at the charity stripe, knocking down 73.1 percent of her shots at the free throw line in her sophomore year, almost 20 points higher than her first season with 49ers. Hunter earned a spot on the All-Conference USA First Team in her sophomore season.
 
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Wow. Buckley is a huge loss for ISU. I'm glad to see her go as she always seemed to play very well against us.
 
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Transfer from Coach Aston's first head coaching job. Common refrain from other transfers - team leader in points and rebounds.

Sophomore Grace Hunter (G - 5' 9") averaged a team-high 17.2 points per game, while grabbing a team-high 8.6 boards per game in her sophomore season. Hunter improved on her shot while at Charlotte, shooting just over 42 percent from three-point range her sophomore year, improving on her 24.4 percent from long range from her first year. Under head coach Cara Consuegra, Hunter also made progress at the charity stripe, knocking down 73.1 percent of her shots at the free throw line in her sophomore year, almost 20 points higher than her first season with 49ers. Hunter earned a spot on the All-Conference USA First Team in her sophomore season.

Used to be transfers were mainly bench players who wanted a chance to play regularly at a smaller school or lesser program. Now we've entered a careerist era where its often leading players who want to star at a better program. I don't really like the trend, but kids have a right to be happy, and often, I imagine, they just want a different scene than the the one they signed into. One has to admit that dear old Basketball U., wherever it is, is using the kids, too...though women's basketball is light years away from the multi billion dollar exploitation racket on the men's side.
 
I believe in second chances.

Obviously, we hear/read a lot more about transfers who many believe will be "impact" players at their new school of choice. These "big time" transfers want to play and win; most often, one or both of those reasons is why they are seeking greener pastures.
 
I believe in second chances.

Obviously, we hear/read a lot more about transfers who many believe will be "impact" players at their new school of choice. These "big time" transfers want to play and win; most often, one or both of those reasons is why they are seeking greener pastures.
I believe that's what is commonly thought about the BC and Pittsburgh players' decisions - want to play for winning teams. It takes a lot to turn a program around with little tradition/history - uncommon success in recruiting and player development, game changing coach (as we saw last night). Of course, I'm just waiting for the rumors about Staley to the WNBA to start although I would be surprised if they had much to them - getting a cash rich, 'second tier in the SEC' university like SC a national championship could make her one of the safest coaches in any D1 sport.
 
Transfer from Coach Aston's first head coaching job. Common refrain from other transfers - team leader in points and rebounds.

Sophomore Grace Hunter (G - 5' 9") averaged a team-high 17.2 points per game, while grabbing a team-high 8.6 boards per game in her sophomore season. Hunter improved on her shot while at Charlotte, shooting just over 42 percent from three-point range her sophomore year, improving on her 24.4 percent from long range from her first year. Under head coach Cara Consuegra, Hunter also made progress at the charity stripe, knocking down 73.1 percent of her shots at the free throw line in her sophomore year, almost 20 points higher than her first season with 49ers. Hunter earned a spot on the All-Conference USA First Team in her sophomore season.
From watching her her highlights she looks like a really nice player. She fits exactly what this team needs which is a guard/wing player with good size. Hopefully Coach Aston will have interest in her because I think she's the kind of player this team needs.
 
Seems like a writing on the wall situation with that many incoming transfers becoming eligible. Had no idea Rutgers had fallen so far but, other than Maryland and Ohio State, what Big 10 women's teams have we heard anything very positive about?

Edit: thought Ciani Cryor's name was familiar - she was Mide's starting PG in high school.
 
Holy cow...WBCA freshman of the year and another blow to a Big 10 school.



Update: 2 other players also transferring from Maryland - F Kiah Gillespie (#25 overall in 2015 class) and C Jenna Staiti (#16 overall in 2016 class).

Update #2: From ESPN - "Standout freshman Destiny Slocum is leaving Maryland to be closer to home because of 'personal family issues.'" Slocum is from Meridian, Idaho.
 
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Holy cow...WBCA freshman of the year and another blow to a Big 10 school.



Update: 2 other players also transferring from Maryland - F Kiah Gillespie (#25 overall in 2015 class) and C Jenna Staiti (#16 overall in 2016 class).

Update #2: From ESPN - "Standout freshman Destiny Slocum is leaving Maryland to be closer to home because of 'personal family issues.'" Slocum is from Meridian, Idaho.



WOW!!
 


The bombs just keep dropping on the Big 10! This time it's Ohio State.
Tori McCoy, all Big 10 first team, and Kiara Lewis are leaving the women's basketball program and will seek to transfer.
 


The bombs just keep dropping on the Big 10! This time it's Ohio State.
Tori McCoy, all Big 10 first team, and Kiara Lewis are leaving the women's basketball program and will seek to transfer.


We seem to have entered an era of Free Agency in college basketball. After every season now, we enter the Free Agent period where lots of top performers get on and off the transfer carousel. Kids always knew they could transfer if they needed to. Now however it is viewed not as an unusual event but as an almost routine possibility, even for players who are successful starters on successful teams. It seems to be accelerating. The more its done by some, the more the rest think of doing it. The motivation doesn't have to be really important anymore. It can happen for any reason---don't like the coach, this school's not as neat as I thought it would be, I'll get on a better team.... Athletic Depts must be going crazy worrying about this, and there will be thoughts of the NCAA making it harder, but what can they do? There's already a requirement to lay out a year after transferring. You can't make the athletes into slaves bound to their academic masters. I wonder what the ultimate effect will be if this continues. One important result might be to reduce parity and strengthen the elite schools. Some of these kids are just leaving one top school for another, so it somewhat balances out. Over time, however, it seems logical that much of the movement of the top athletes will be from lesser programs to the stronger ones. Schools already at the top will benefit the most.
 
We seem to have entered an era of Free Agency in college basketball. After every season now, we enter the Free Agent period where lots of top performers get on and off the transfer carousel. Kids always knew they could transfer if they needed to. Now however it is viewed not as an unusual event but as an almost routine possibility, even for players who are successful starters on successful teams. It seems to be accelerating. The more its done by some, the more the rest think of doing it. The motivation doesn't have to be really important anymore. It can happen for any reason---don't like the coach, this school's not as neat as I thought it would be, I'll get on a better team.... Athletic Depts must be going crazy worrying about this, and there will be thoughts of the NCAA making it harder, but what can they do? There's already a requirement to lay out a year after transferring. You can't make the athletes into slaves bound to their academic masters. I wonder what the ultimate effect will be if this continues. One important result might be to reduce parity and strengthen the elite schools. Some of these kids are just leaving one top school for another, so it somewhat balances out. Over time, however, it seems logical that much of the movement of the top athletes will be from lesser programs to the stronger ones. Schools already at the top will benefit the most.
If coaches can "transfer" by moving on to new jobs, why can't students? This question pops up often for college football. Karen left UNT with kids she recruited still had to go to UNT because they signed their LOI. Also, we certainly didn't turn away the twins or Jatarie White as transfers.

BTW, there is one case where we had a freshman, Rachel Rentschler 2007-2008 (http://www.texassports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=27&path=wbball), who was a pretty decent player her first year. She transfered after the 2007-2008 season. This was during Coach G's first year. She transferred to TCU and I was confused to see that she immediately played that next year (2008-2009) without sitting out (http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/w-baskbl/archive/061309aaa.html)

Curious, I dug into the NCAA bylaws and there is an exception to the 1-year rule. If the coach of the original school gives permission to the transfer student, they do not have to sit out one year at the landing school. I suppose there may have been a handshake deal between Goestenkors and Rentschler that if the first year didn't work out (she was recruited by Jody), then she would be allowed to transfer and play immediately. I downloaded the stats PDF and saw she played in all 31 games of the 2008-2009 season.

I was sad because Rentschler had a sweet 3-point shot.
 
If coaches can "transfer" by moving on to new jobs, why can't students? This question pops up often for college football. Karen left UNT with kids she recruited still had to go to UNT because they signed their LOI. Also, we certainly didn't turn away the twins or Jatarie White as transfers.

BTW, there is one case where we had a freshman, Rachel Rentschler 2007-2008 (http://www.texassports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=27&path=wbball), who was a pretty decent player her first year. She transfered after the 2007-2008 season. This was during Coach G's first year. She transferred to TCU and I was confused to see that she immediately played that next year (2008-2009) without sitting out (http://www.gofrogs.com/sports/w-baskbl/archive/061309aaa.html)

Curious, I dug into the NCAA bylaws and there is an exception to the 1-year rule. If the coach of the original school gives permission to the transfer student, they do not have to sit out one year at the landing school. I suppose there may have been a handshake deal between Goestenkors and Rentschler that if the first year didn't work out (she was recruited by Jody), then she would be allowed to transfer and play immediately. I downloaded the stats PDF and saw she played in all 31 games of the 2008-2009 season.

I was sad because Rentschler had a sweet 3-point shot.
To your point about coaches...
 

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