MoveOn endorses Obama!

I agree with Washpark on this one. MoveOn is as divisive and evil as Rove etc. are on the right. I am not surprised by their endorsement, but I am still disappointed by it.

I don't despise MoveOn because of their position on the political spectrum. I despise them because they are all about divisiveness, and do more to hurt the dream of a deliberative democracy than help it.

Then again, McCain will get the endorsement of the Minutemen (you laugh now, but when they have to, they will), and/or some other divisive group. Our hope of a civil campagin still has life, but we shouldn't buy into the illusion that it won't involve plenty of the bullshittery of divisive politics as usual.
 
WP:

I don't disagree with you that your response would be very good for the General election. But we are a very long way from deciding the primary and he cannot risk a snub to a group that is supporting him.

The endorsement is the result of a poll taking over the last 2 days of Move-On members. They sent out a “ballot” to each member and gave one vote per member. They stated that they would endorse and then use their e-mail list, money, etc. to work for one of the candidates only if one candidate won more than 2/3 of the votes.

When I first saw the poll, I was not sure I wanted to win because Move-on is controversial, but in this close of a race, winning the support of an organization with an e-mail list with 3.2M names, lots of money, and political clout especially among supporters of John Edwards, it is important.
 
SD - the operative phrase is 'winning the support'. Based on what you describe, the endorsement came from the bottom up, not the top down tied to some quid pro quo.

Endorsing someone does not mean they are suddenly snug under your wing. If that were the case, what does Hillary do for Coulter for her endorsement?
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The right wants to run against Clinton so badly they can taste it.

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This can only be a good thing in the short term. I too hope that Obama can limit MoveOn's divisiveness in the general election. Of course, it really didn't matter because even IF MoveOn had endorsed Clinton now only to see Obama win they'd still turn all their guns against the Republican candidate in the general election.
 
on the list of organizations that piss me off.... here are the top 3.

1. PETA
2. NCAA
3. Moveon.org

and i would consider myself liberal.
 
Mr. Wizard,

This isn't the first time you have attributed a position to me which is incorrect. And on a thread where I haven't posted. For the record (again) let me say that I hope Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee. (But I hope Obama bloodies her good on the way and she has to steal it with a delegate seating fight at the convention. So I'll cheer every punch he lands on her unless and until I think he is the favorite. Then I'll cheer her punches.)

notreally,

You're liberal. If you were conservative PETA would be funny and good for making liberals look foolish.
 
triple,

I saw that. I'll watch the surrogates. My wet dream only materializes if Hillary's supporters feel threatened. On Wednesday they'll rest easy or panic.
 
i'd like to say that i agree 100% with washpark on this.

but obama is in a no win situation. does he dare insult the netroots of moveon and risk having them attack him or seek to undermine him? or does he accept their support now, knowing that come general election time, he'll likely publically chastise them when they inevitably do something crass?

i don't know. tough call.
 
Seriously, there is no comparison between Focus On The Family and MoveOn.org. It's not even apples/oranges. It's apples and staplers. There's just very little similarity there.
 
I don't like the fact that Obama has now publicly aligned himself with george soros. if cheney is darth vader, then soros is the whole freaking empire.
 
Moveon.org is strictly political. Focus on the Family may have political undertones because of the head, but overall it is a program that tries to build the family unit.

As I said before, no comparison.
 
I voted in the moveon poll and I'm pretty much a republican. They've been really active in a number of thing that I feel really strongly about, like network neutrality. I don't agree with all of their agenda but they do go after some good issues. When they go over board I try to give them feed back that tells them so. I don't think the entire organization is full of nuts.

I sent them this when they went ape sh*t over the bomb iran McCain incident:

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