MLK day/Juneteenth

huisache

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Every MLK Day brings a predictable litany: one bunch of people sanctifies MLK and his dream and another bunch trashes him and talks about what a disappointing bunch the black folks are.

I have problems with both approaches.

The deification of King overlooks some things that were patently obvious at the time of his death: he was spiraling downward in terms of influence at the time and had spun off into some areas of debatable usefulness in terms of the cause of black liberation. His anti capitalist rhetoric was pointless and self defeating. His opposition to the war in Viet Nam was costing him. And then there was the little matter of the resentment of him by most black leaders in the US, a fact that is never noted now. And of course, the black militants thought him an Uncle Tom, another fact that gets short shrift now. To hear it now, every black person in the US was on board with him all the way. Was not the way it was.

The opposing faction now, I will call them bigots for lack of a more accurate term, point out correctly that he was no saint and was cheating on his wife repeatedly, said a lot of things a preacher should not be saying and by the way, he plagiarized his thesis at theology school. All of which is true, even if it is a bunch of bigots yelling about it.

I am uncomfortable having a day celebrating one person as a symbol of a movement that covered a lot more ground than he did.

Which brings me to Juneteenth and why I think we ought to be celebrating it instead.

Juneteenth celebrates the arrival of the blue coats with bayonets to end slavery in Texas. It ought to be the most celebrated day in Texas next to San Jacinto Day, when Houston, Seguin, de Zavala and the rest liberated everybody else. Sort of.

Unlike MLK, there is no legitamate reason to oppose celebrating the end of slavery. Outside of New Caney, anyway. And it can be celebrated as a jumpiing off point. The Yankee conquerors may have ended slavery, but that was just a first step in ridding our country of the evils of racism.

I am 64 and have seen incredible improvement in the ethnic situation in our state, both as to blacks and hispanics. No doubt this will continue for decades to come as we welcome, most of us, the growth of the black and hispanic middle classes and the gradual elevation of some of them to the upper layer.

I respect King for sticking to his principles even when he knew people were repeatedly trying to kill him and would probably succeed. We honor men for the good they do, not their faults. Travis was a wastrel and a slave owner but at the appropriate time he stood up and died for what he believed in. Jim Bowie was a lot worse. I still respect and honor them for the good. Same with King.

But the cause he fought for could be more profitably marked by celebrating Juneteenth rather than his birthday.
 
Good post.

While watching The NewsHour yesterday and the brouhaha over the botched quote on the MLK statue (much ado about not much, imo) I couldn't help thinking that the black community really needs to latch onto more vital, tangible issues to get behind, and establish concrete goals.

I know this is a bit snarky, but how about the black community worrying if your highschool kid got an A in his/her advanced math class? What's that? Your kid isn't taking advanced math??? My point exactly. Put your emphasis on education, dammit. I don't care if you follow Booker T. or WEB, just focus on education.
 
Huis
do you have a link to this bunch you say trash MLK ( well except fpr Jackie O and J Edgar) and call black people a disappointing bunch?
 
there is a beautiful example of it at Taki's magazine online by Jim Goad. Also saw some on Texags. And almost any right wing site is going to rehash the stuff about the philandering and plagiarism. I said right wing, not conservative.

Taki Theodoropoulus (sp) was one of the founders of the American Conservative mag and may still post there, but has his own site now.

If you surf right and left wing sites regularly you come across a lot of interesting stuff, most of it with some basis in fact with heavy overlayers of dogma..
 
MLK's loss of influence, real or imagined was due in part to his intention to revise the social justice template to include a quest for economic justice for the poor people of the world. He found disfavor with those who once supported him because he had the temerity to meddle in geopolitics while speaking prophetically against some aspects of American foreign policy. When his efforts to supplant charity with justice grew beyond the borders of the Deep South, for many, he became a problem.

Suggesting that Juneteenth be viewed as a worthier reason to celebrate is to give short shrift to MLK's' contributions.

Like all unique change agents who preceded him, MLK is celebrated for the good he contributed, not for his faults. Abe Lincoln got the railroads built on the norhtern route; who cares if he owned lots in Council Bluffs, where they jumped off for the west?
 
Shiner, your post is a bit of a non sequitur. The celebration of Jesus’ birthday is by now certainly more an end-of-year cultural/retail/generic holiday custom than anything, at least for the millions of non-Christians among us. I support the church-state separation but have never thought of Christmas as an affront to that. And the “Baptist preacher” is surely best known for his efforts on behalf of justice and equality than for his sermonizing.

I will give you credit though for not finding a way to blame Secular Socialist Hussein for it.
 
Satchel: I agree he was trying to change the template but that is not why he is celebrated. He was the figurehead and a martyr to the civl rights movement to end de jure segregation. That was the greatest accomplishment in my lifetime in a non science realm. It deserves to be honored and used as a subject of yearly discussion. Trying to revise capitalism's destructiveness is another matter. Its destructiveness is part of its creativity and there is no consensus whatsoever that the kinds of limits he might have sought to install were or are to be preferred.

His opposition to the war was to my taste, but it is not something we need to be honoring with a special day every year. The ongoing struggle to create a society where social equality is a shared ideal is a consensus matter and that is what we honor him for.

My point was that Juneteenth is more appropriate and does not have all the baggage he brings along.

I give my staff off both days but think Juneteenth the more preferable one.
 
Interesting post - not sure I have an issue with the day itself, but sometimes the "deification" issue can be problematic. Having said that, sometimes people are valuable as symbols, in which case I tend to cut people some slack if they remember someone in slightly glowing terms.

I'm a little confused by this statement:

In reply to:


 
prodigal: Most of the people I see saying this every year are bigots on right wing sites and publications and right wing friends of mine. But just because someone is a bigot does not mean they are always wrong. Even bigots are right factually a lot of the time. Most of the people who harp on black crime rates are bigots, and they are right. Not all of them are bigots. I particularly like the Englishman who calls himself Dalrymple, for example, and he is not a bigot.

But I am not particularly hostile towards bigots so long as they aren't killing people.

The claims that MLK plagiarized are true, as are the claims that he cheated on his wife repeatedly and that he took the assistance of some known commies. I tend to frown on plagiarism and to a lesser extent on cheating on one's spouse, though I have never married and have tried to overlook the acts of girlfriends who have wandered on me. We are all human, after all. And I don't have anything against using commies in the right cause, especially when republicans and democrats are using polling to figure out whether it is ok to oppose lynching, as they were in the bad old days.

Hope that clears things up a little.

One other thing, a lot of my posts are sent up with my tongue lodged into my cheek. I usually try to be lighthearted about my posting and abuse the freedom to engage in rhetorical hyperbole more than is probably wise or customary.
 
Good to hear a little history about Dr. King. I've always been impressed by his incredible intellect, patience and temperament. That said, I think any political figure is elevated by history when they are assassinated. It is a very human phenomenon.
 
If you are looking for a Federal Holiday Day to celebrate the end of slavery or the Proclamation of Emancipation(sp), the best date would be Septermber 22nd.

This is the date that Lincoln announced that on January 1, 1863 all states that are still part of the CSA will have their slaves declared free.

Juneteenth would be a good date for a Texas holiday.

I think September 22 would be better if you are looking for a more nationally recognized and appropriate date.

Of course that is if you want to do away with the MLK holiday.
 

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