orangecat1
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I was looking at the 3000 hit club to see who compares favorably to Michael, and it didn't take too long to see that Michael compares favorably with......
Pete Rose, not kidding.
Check this out, during the year in which they turned 34, here are their stats.
662 112 210 47 4 7 0 74 89 8 50 1 1 11 13 .317 .406 .432
compared to
34 TEX AL 156 676 619 85 209 41 6 11 104 6 2 46 78 .338 .380 .477 .857 125 295 17
check out their avgs., Michael will finish with ~339, Pete had 317, Michael 212+ hits, Pete had 210.
Now here's the real comparison, 200+ hit seasons before/including age 34, Pete had 7, Michael has 6.
330+ avg seasons before/including age 34 - Pete 3, Michael 2.
Now look at games played, Pete played almost every game,
seasons over 150 before/including 34 - 10, including 3 years in which he played at least 162, one year he played in 163 games!!
Michael - seasons playing over 150 before/including 34 - 9, including one year in which he played 162.
Pete had a three year head start on Michael, Michael had 388 At-bats compared to Pete's 3 years before 25.
The reason I was looking at this comparison was to try to find out how well Michael will do after age 40. I project Michael to finish the next five years averaging 190 hits per year to break the 3000 hit plateau as a 40 year old.(actually an older 39, he ages in late October, close enough)
Michael has the advantage of the DH, of course, but Pete had an advantage of getting to face starting pitchers more times during the same game. ( he probably knew what pitch was coming more often than not on the 3rd or 4th time he faced the starting pitcher) I would imagine those factors even out?
Both players are flexible in the position played. I think Pete probably holds the record for most different positions played during the all-star game, Michael to a lesser degree.
so, to finish, if I say that Michael duplicates Pete's three years after 40, ages 41,42,43, he gets 172, 121, 72 hits. But I don't assume that, I'm gonna just give him 200 hits total after that season in which Michael breaks 3000. Michael gets approximately 3200 hits total.
And that number puts him in the hall of fame. That number makes him about number 14 or 15, depending upon somebody like Jeter.
(Pete may have the record for most hits from age 43-45, almost 200. I don't give any player a chance at a hit after 42 anymore.)
Pete Rose, not kidding.
Check this out, during the year in which they turned 34, here are their stats.
662 112 210 47 4 7 0 74 89 8 50 1 1 11 13 .317 .406 .432
compared to
34 TEX AL 156 676 619 85 209 41 6 11 104 6 2 46 78 .338 .380 .477 .857 125 295 17
check out their avgs., Michael will finish with ~339, Pete had 317, Michael 212+ hits, Pete had 210.
Now here's the real comparison, 200+ hit seasons before/including age 34, Pete had 7, Michael has 6.
330+ avg seasons before/including age 34 - Pete 3, Michael 2.
Now look at games played, Pete played almost every game,
seasons over 150 before/including 34 - 10, including 3 years in which he played at least 162, one year he played in 163 games!!
Michael - seasons playing over 150 before/including 34 - 9, including one year in which he played 162.
Pete had a three year head start on Michael, Michael had 388 At-bats compared to Pete's 3 years before 25.
The reason I was looking at this comparison was to try to find out how well Michael will do after age 40. I project Michael to finish the next five years averaging 190 hits per year to break the 3000 hit plateau as a 40 year old.(actually an older 39, he ages in late October, close enough)
Michael has the advantage of the DH, of course, but Pete had an advantage of getting to face starting pitchers more times during the same game. ( he probably knew what pitch was coming more often than not on the 3rd or 4th time he faced the starting pitcher) I would imagine those factors even out?
Both players are flexible in the position played. I think Pete probably holds the record for most different positions played during the all-star game, Michael to a lesser degree.
so, to finish, if I say that Michael duplicates Pete's three years after 40, ages 41,42,43, he gets 172, 121, 72 hits. But I don't assume that, I'm gonna just give him 200 hits total after that season in which Michael breaks 3000. Michael gets approximately 3200 hits total.
And that number puts him in the hall of fame. That number makes him about number 14 or 15, depending upon somebody like Jeter.
(Pete may have the record for most hits from age 43-45, almost 200. I don't give any player a chance at a hit after 42 anymore.)
