Michael Young asks for trade...
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Hope this one gets straightened out quickly. MY has already made the change "for the good of the team" once. Andrus is apparently the real deal for the future, and it certainly would be nice to have both of them on the field at the same time. OTOH, look at other excellent players who moved for SS to 3B - Cal Ripken comes to mind, and the move didn't hurt his career a bit.
HHD
HHD
History Horn
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This is not good. I was under the impression that this was the last of the pre-Ranger years in the AL West.
They have the best core nucleus of prospects & good young players to be contenders for at least the division & possibly more for the next several years.
The Rangers now have no leverage to get something of equal value in return for one of the best shortstops in the game.
I have a hard time believing that MY will sit out once games start, because it's hard to start missing game checks. However you might have a very acrimonious clubhouse that could serve to ruin a great crop of youngsters early on.
The future looked bright for the first time in a long time for the franchise, but it appears the storm clouds are beginning to gather.
They have the best core nucleus of prospects & good young players to be contenders for at least the division & possibly more for the next several years.
The Rangers now have no leverage to get something of equal value in return for one of the best shortstops in the game.
I have a hard time believing that MY will sit out once games start, because it's hard to start missing game checks. However you might have a very acrimonious clubhouse that could serve to ruin a great crop of youngsters early on.
The future looked bright for the first time in a long time for the franchise, but it appears the storm clouds are beginning to gather.
Having watched him hammer the ball for several seasons it's hard to believe Young is overpriced. He's a steady bat, his number of errors is low and he's never been a problem in the clubhouse.
All in all, he might be terrific at third base. I'd rather have his bat and glove the Blalock's bat and glove.
All in all, he might be terrific at third base. I'd rather have his bat and glove the Blalock's bat and glove.
busterbrown16
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Olney needs to get his facts straight. Young was paid a good chunk of the new contract up front so he is owed $62 million over the next 5 years. That is $12 million a year (as opposed to $16 million). That is the going rate for a gold glove SS that hits .300.
With that said, I could care less about the Rangers at this point. The constant change of philosophy has set this club back years. The "big time" prospects, that we are all still waiting for, are always 2-3 years away. But they have said that every year for the past 4 years.
With that said, I could care less about the Rangers at this point. The constant change of philosophy has set this club back years. The "big time" prospects, that we are all still waiting for, are always 2-3 years away. But they have said that every year for the past 4 years.
Olney's latest:
"Dish: Michael Young wants to be traded after being told the Rangers want to move him from shortstop to third base to facilitate the ascension of Elvis Andrus, Richard Durrett writes. Digestion: Many rival executives and even some agents have little sympathy for Young, and some are flat-out appalled by his response. "The guy is well-compensated by the Rangers, and the Rangers are asking him to make a change that they think is good for the team," one executive said. "They should tell him, 'You're unhappy? OK, would you like to void your contract?' And of course the answer would be no."
Said another official: "What a joke. It's all about him, and not about the Rangers."
There is unanimity among executives I spoke with Monday on this point: It will be very, very difficult for Texas Rangers general manager Jon Daniels to arrange a suitable trade of Young because of his enormous contract. But Young's deal is loaded with deferred money, which diminishes the real value of the contract. Here is his pay schedule:
• 2009 salary: $11 million, with $870,000 deferred
• 2010: $11 million, with $870,000 deferred
• 2011: $12 million, with $2,500,000 deferred
• 2012: $12 million, $2,500,000 deferred
• 2013: $13 million, $2,500,000 deferred
Young's average annual salary is $11.8 million, and the total amount of deferred money in his deal will turn out to be $13.648 million, with payments beginning in 2016.
To put this contract in perspective in the current market: Orlando Hudson is a free agent. He is not in Young's class as a hitter but is an excellent defensive player and at 31 is a year younger than Young. So if Young is a Grade A player, Hudson is a B-plus/A-minus type of guy -- and there is a perception among some executives that Hudson would be fortunate to get two years and $20 million this winter. But the real value of Young's deal is $62 million.
To trade Young, the Rangers likely would have to eat a huge chunk of his contract and accept a deal that probably would not yield topflight prospects.
Put it this way," one GM said. "If the Rangers offered up Michael Young for free -- with that contract, I don't think there would be any takers."
Said another GM: "Good luck moving that contract."
There is some question among rival executives about how much production Young would generate outside the bandbox in Arlington, where his OPS in the past three seasons has been 100 points higher than it has been on the road.
And, fair or not, the idea that Young -- who has had a pristine reputation in the game -- is balking at a position change raises doubts about what kind of employee he will be in the last years of his career. "I'm curious to see whether Nolan Ryan (the Rangers' president) comes out and says something about this," an AL GM said. "He's all old-school, and this can't be sitting well with him."
"Dish: Michael Young wants to be traded after being told the Rangers want to move him from shortstop to third base to facilitate the ascension of Elvis Andrus, Richard Durrett writes. Digestion: Many rival executives and even some agents have little sympathy for Young, and some are flat-out appalled by his response. "The guy is well-compensated by the Rangers, and the Rangers are asking him to make a change that they think is good for the team," one executive said. "They should tell him, 'You're unhappy? OK, would you like to void your contract?' And of course the answer would be no."
Said another official: "What a joke. It's all about him, and not about the Rangers."
There is unanimity among executives I spoke with Monday on this point: It will be very, very difficult for Texas Rangers general manager Jon Daniels to arrange a suitable trade of Young because of his enormous contract. But Young's deal is loaded with deferred money, which diminishes the real value of the contract. Here is his pay schedule:
• 2009 salary: $11 million, with $870,000 deferred
• 2010: $11 million, with $870,000 deferred
• 2011: $12 million, with $2,500,000 deferred
• 2012: $12 million, $2,500,000 deferred
• 2013: $13 million, $2,500,000 deferred
Young's average annual salary is $11.8 million, and the total amount of deferred money in his deal will turn out to be $13.648 million, with payments beginning in 2016.
To put this contract in perspective in the current market: Orlando Hudson is a free agent. He is not in Young's class as a hitter but is an excellent defensive player and at 31 is a year younger than Young. So if Young is a Grade A player, Hudson is a B-plus/A-minus type of guy -- and there is a perception among some executives that Hudson would be fortunate to get two years and $20 million this winter. But the real value of Young's deal is $62 million.
To trade Young, the Rangers likely would have to eat a huge chunk of his contract and accept a deal that probably would not yield topflight prospects.
Put it this way," one GM said. "If the Rangers offered up Michael Young for free -- with that contract, I don't think there would be any takers."
Said another GM: "Good luck moving that contract."
There is some question among rival executives about how much production Young would generate outside the bandbox in Arlington, where his OPS in the past three seasons has been 100 points higher than it has been on the road.
And, fair or not, the idea that Young -- who has had a pristine reputation in the game -- is balking at a position change raises doubts about what kind of employee he will be in the last years of his career. "I'm curious to see whether Nolan Ryan (the Rangers' president) comes out and says something about this," an AL GM said. "He's all old-school, and this can't be sitting well with him."
busterbrown16
1,000+ Posts
At least Olney did his homework and fixed the salary issue. It amazes me when these baseball writers just write something without doing all the homework.
It is interesting how Olney gets the baseball officials' perspective. The buzz I have been hearing the metroplex (on radio shows, blogs, etc) is that Michael Young is getting the screw job and he is one of the favorite Rangers players for most fans. They feel he is in the right and there is backlash against the Rangers. That might hurt them in selling tickets (as if everything else they do has not hurt them anyway).
It is interesting how Olney gets the baseball officials' perspective. The buzz I have been hearing the metroplex (on radio shows, blogs, etc) is that Michael Young is getting the screw job and he is one of the favorite Rangers players for most fans. They feel he is in the right and there is backlash against the Rangers. That might hurt them in selling tickets (as if everything else they do has not hurt them anyway).
Vizquel officially signs today: 1 year, $1 mil.
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