MasculinUT
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Had to look that up, whoo!
news.utexas.edu/2018/04/29/statement-on-masculinut
Statement on MasculinUT
Statement from The University of Texas at Austin:
The MasculinUT program does not treat masculinity as a “mental health issue,” and any such statements are simply not accurate. It was established to bring more men to the table to address interpersonal violence, sexual assault and other issues.
Like other UT programs related to sexual assault and interpersonal violence, MasculinUT is housed administratively in the university’s Counseling and Mental Health Center. Its goals include helping men explore ways to reduce sexual violence, helping students take responsibility for their actions, and fostering healthier relationships on campus and beyond.
These are important goals that we strongly stand behind. It has become clear that some of the communication and discussion surrounding MasculinUT did not convey this fully or clearly and was not effective at reaching the broad audiences the program envisioned. As a result, we will be reviewing the website and other content to ensure that it serves the program’s goals and will make any appropriate changes as we receive feedback from stakeholders.
Earlier this year, The University of Texas System Board of Regents approved funding for mental health, student safety, and alcohol-related initiatives including efforts to reduce sexual assaults on campus. The new staff position that will oversee this program, and coordinate with other UT System schools, is part of those efforts funded by the Regents.
news.utexas.edu/2018/04/29/statement-on-masculinut
Statement on MasculinUT
Statement from The University of Texas at Austin:
The MasculinUT program does not treat masculinity as a “mental health issue,” and any such statements are simply not accurate. It was established to bring more men to the table to address interpersonal violence, sexual assault and other issues.
Like other UT programs related to sexual assault and interpersonal violence, MasculinUT is housed administratively in the university’s Counseling and Mental Health Center. Its goals include helping men explore ways to reduce sexual violence, helping students take responsibility for their actions, and fostering healthier relationships on campus and beyond.
These are important goals that we strongly stand behind. It has become clear that some of the communication and discussion surrounding MasculinUT did not convey this fully or clearly and was not effective at reaching the broad audiences the program envisioned. As a result, we will be reviewing the website and other content to ensure that it serves the program’s goals and will make any appropriate changes as we receive feedback from stakeholders.
Earlier this year, The University of Texas System Board of Regents approved funding for mental health, student safety, and alcohol-related initiatives including efforts to reduce sexual assaults on campus. The new staff position that will oversee this program, and coordinate with other UT System schools, is part of those efforts funded by the Regents.
Tying this to "masculinity" was a colossal PR fail IMO. You're laying it ALL at the feet of men and blaming them for being masculine.
And we wonder why it costs so much to go to UT.
And we wonder why it costs so much to go to UT.
It gave me pause to consider the propriety of this department’s entire existence.
To what degree is a university responsible for the mental health of its students?
We like to rah rah rah, sis boom bah on game day, but frankly, the University offers a product: 4 year degree. Students pay (a subsidized rate) and make their personal efforts to successfully pass each class in a plan ... then are awarded the degree they pursued.
If they aren’t representing the University (in NCAA sports, for example) ... any student with any sort of medical/mental health issue should seek their own services.
Unless these assaults are occurring in dorms (and perhaps they are) ... or in class rooms ... it’s really none of the University’s business. If they are concerned about perceptions of behavior within the student body ... police the student body with probation and expulsion.
By the time people are sufficiently mature to attend the University unsupervised, they know right from wrong. They don’t need education, they need discipline/enforcement.
Sexual assault is criminal ... it’s not masculine. To infer that it could be seen as such is a passive aggressive methodology of word redefintion ... and that for subversive purposes.
This program ... yea ... even the entire department in student services should be revoked/cancelled/closed.
our universities’ students need their education ... they do NOT need indoctrination ... certainly NOT by the State.
To what degree is a university responsible for the mental health of its students?
We like to rah rah rah, sis boom bah on game day, but frankly, the University offers a product: 4 year degree. Students pay (a subsidized rate) and make their personal efforts to successfully pass each class in a plan ... then are awarded the degree they pursued.
If they aren’t representing the University (in NCAA sports, for example) ... any student with any sort of medical/mental health issue should seek their own services.
Unless these assaults are occurring in dorms (and perhaps they are) ... or in class rooms ... it’s really none of the University’s business. If they are concerned about perceptions of behavior within the student body ... police the student body with probation and expulsion.
By the time people are sufficiently mature to attend the University unsupervised, they know right from wrong. They don’t need education, they need discipline/enforcement.
Sexual assault is criminal ... it’s not masculine. To infer that it could be seen as such is a passive aggressive methodology of word redefintion ... and that for subversive purposes.
This program ... yea ... even the entire department in student services should be revoked/cancelled/closed.
our universities’ students need their education ... they do NOT need indoctrination ... certainly NOT by the State.
What I find ironic ...
with this department and this initiative in particular ... it seems the University is more concerned about the behavior of its students which are customers and not representatives ... than they are of the student athletes/representatives who DO represent.
IOW ... band members get passes on behavior that an otherwise “other” student isn’t afforded. Football players are afforded tutors which “carry the academic load” so they do not have to do so ... that other students do not have access.
criminal behavior is more tolerated among the “ambassador” students than of the “working to pay for school” students.
with this department and this initiative in particular ... it seems the University is more concerned about the behavior of its students which are customers and not representatives ... than they are of the student athletes/representatives who DO represent.
IOW ... band members get passes on behavior that an otherwise “other” student isn’t afforded. Football players are afforded tutors which “carry the academic load” so they do not have to do so ... that other students do not have access.
criminal behavior is more tolerated among the “ambassador” students than of the “working to pay for school” students.
I agree. And how far does a university go — do they prescribe meds? Without knowledge and consent of parents/guardians (if there are any)? Seems like a very slippery slope but I don’t know anything about their services so I may be assuming too much.
No degree. It's nonsense.
They're trying to do the same sort of thing that K-12 education tries to do - be all things to all students because it brings them money, power, and influence. Education doesn't exist to save the world, teach morals, or socially engineer people. That's what families, religious institutions, civic organizations, and sometimes prisons are for. Education exists to impart knowledge to it students. That is its only legitimate function, and when they try to go beyond that agenda, they usually screw up and end up doing more harm than good.
The Vanity Fair article on Jordan Peterson discusses Peterson’s view that immasculating men cause some to go overboard into reckless behavior. This program is in direct conflict with that view.
Joe Fan
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To remind everyone what the mission of Universities vis a vis paying customers/students should be; " Education exists to impart knowledge to its' students. That is its only legitimate function, and when they try to go beyond that agenda, they usually screw up and end up doing more harm than good."
Joe Fan
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I think he is at his best destroying PC Culture
But he is Canadian so has a limited upside
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He is a rare academic who likes freedom of speech and doesn't hate men.
Jordan Peterson in that video:
“Life is suffering for everyone. People are now driven by vengefulness against everyone due to all the bad things that have ever happened to them... even though suffering is ‘just being’ for everyone.”
This about sums up PC culture, twitter mobs, political rage, sports rage, road rage, etc.
“Life is not fair. I have suffered. I am going to get back at anyone and everyone that I do not like to the extent I can.”
^ I feel like this thought process dominates today. I feel like it did not used to dominate. What is driving this? How do we get away from it?
I feel the only answer I have is we should spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone, including wayward Christians, that have chosen this thought process. I am open to other thoughts.
“Life is suffering for everyone. People are now driven by vengefulness against everyone due to all the bad things that have ever happened to them... even though suffering is ‘just being’ for everyone.”
This about sums up PC culture, twitter mobs, political rage, sports rage, road rage, etc.
“Life is not fair. I have suffered. I am going to get back at anyone and everyone that I do not like to the extent I can.”
^ I feel like this thought process dominates today. I feel like it did not used to dominate. What is driving this? How do we get away from it?
I feel the only answer I have is we should spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone, including wayward Christians, that have chosen this thought process. I am open to other thoughts.
The feeling is manufactured. The generations that survived the Great Depression, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam thought life was pretty good compared to the alternative. These MF’s need to be put on the frontline - maybe it is time to bring back the draft for national service.
Monahorns
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Htown77, I think you have the right idea.
mchammer, I also agree with you. The issue is that in the US for the last 50 years we have lived a life of extreme ease and please. Therefore, we don't really understand what life on earth is and is obvious to everyone else on the planet and throughout history.
Life isn't fair. It hurts. It is hard. Now go make the best of it. That message needs to preached alongside the gospel to our country.
mchammer, I also agree with you. The issue is that in the US for the last 50 years we have lived a life of extreme ease and please. Therefore, we don't really understand what life on earth is and is obvious to everyone else on the planet and throughout history.
Life isn't fair. It hurts. It is hard. Now go make the best of it. That message needs to preached alongside the gospel to our country.
I agree, and this leads me to another point. The modern SJW has contempt for Christianity, but they still yearn to have a sense of righteousness and greatly value being viewed as righteous and good so long as morality is defined by themselves and like-minded people rather submitting to a moral code from a higher authority such as God.
I think that drives the PC outrage culture at least as much vengefulness for the specific individual's suffering or alleged suffering. If you don't have moral validation from religion, I don't think you stop wanting it. I think you start looking for it somewhere else, and the PC culture can give it to you. You can make yourself look and feel moral if you join one of these idiotic PC crusades. It's a false validation, but it feels real.
ProdigalHorn
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Hmmm without needing a campus organization or a discussion, I can think of two things right off the top of my head that men can do to accomplish this.
That's because being your own moral code is much easier. I don't have to change, I don't have to make my behavior adhere to a standard that I didn't approve, or that didn't arise naturally from my own inclinations. So Christianity=bad, and self-righteous virtue-signaling=good.
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