LOST 5/18

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The last regular epi of Lost.

Jack is the new Jacob. No big surprise there. Kate certainly didn't jump at the chance when she found out she was still a candidate. Hurley said, "glad it wasn't me". And, of course, Sawyer wasn't going to stick his neck out.

Richard Alpert killed. Whidmore killed. Sexy Zoe killed.

How about that Whidmore; he just wandered aimlessly around the island until the Smoke Monster found him. I thought he had a plan. I thought he was going to wage war on the MiB! He turned out to be almost as irrelevant as Ilana and her group.


Next week the Good, led by Jack, vs the Bad, led by MiB and his little homunculus, Ben. Also, hopefully the resolution of the timelines.
 
I don't think Richard is dead, you never actually see him die, much like the mercenaries at the end of season 4 And I was hoping Ben had redeemed himself, but he's gone off again, towards the dark side. A few seasons ago, it was also said that Ben and Charles couldn't kill each other. Widmore may still be alive.

I'm curious as to the significance of the cut on Jack's neck, the concert that ATDesmond is taking people to (Daniel's concert?), as well as OTDesmond.

Also, if Kate's name was crossed out because she became a "mother", what about the Kwon's?
 
RE: Kwons: it is unclear what to make of that, but I suspect that the Kwon on the list was Jin, who never actually met his child. It was not the act of having a child dependent on her which took Kate off the list, but rather her embracing of motherhood.

I'm still stuck on the fact of the 6 main candidates: 4 - Locke, 8- Reyes, 15 - Ford, 16 - Jarrah, 23 - Shepard, 42 - Kwon. These six numbers have been isolated as special since at least as far back as the construction of The Swan (where they were stamped on the hatch prior to the incident) and there is something significant enough about these numbers that allowed them to keep the magnetic anomaly in check (still unexplained). That said, at the time of those events there were other candidates still in play (52 - Austen, 20 - ROUSSEAU, 2- LACOMBE, 29 - BRENNAN, 48 - STANHOPE, 101- FARADAY, 117 - LINUS, 104 - LEWIS, 124- DAWSON, 171 - STRAUME, 172 - PACE, 226 - CARLYLE, and possibly more)... and yet these six were special. I can't tell if this intentional or just a continuity error they aren't going to address.
 
I'm glad that Ben is back to his old ways. Something didn't feel right this season when he was a non-factor and just kind of went along with everybody else.
 
I'm not sure that we have established that Ben is necessarily evil at this point. Killing Whidmore is not necessarily an evil act since (1) Whidmore is responsible for Alex's death and (2) Whidmore was in the process of spilling Jacob's reasons to Smokey. Which is to say, Ben could have killed him for revenge or to protect the island, and neither motive would be necessarily "evil". Desmond's role in this, and his usefulness to Not-Locke is not fully established and perhaps Whidmore had more to say.

Not to mention the fact Ben did not tell Not-Locke about Miles, which suggests that Ben is playing a game here beyond his apparent subservience to Not-Locke.
 
Perhaps the numbers relate to that game the boys played?

Jack and Locke sitting there once the dust settles, just like Jacob and his brother before them, does seem where this was headed the whole time. The conflicting ideas each represented is at the heart of one of the underlying issues, if not the issue. Of course, there remains the chance Ben will alter this picture (if not Desmond the big picture).

Looks like sideways Miles and Charlotte will be at the concert with Desmond, Kate, Charley (i think), Farraday (i guess), Penny, Eloise and Widmore -- but not Sawyer, Hurley and Sayid (as far as we know) and definitely not Jack and Locke who will both be in surgery. And not Claire I suppose -- the birth of sideways Aaron will no doubt have some meaning.
 
not to mention not-Locke offered Ben the island in return for helping him find Whidmore and Zoe and then not-Locke tells Ben he's going to destroy the island at the end of the epsiode (which I'm assuming Ben won't like).
 
Ben knows that not-Locke is can't be trusted. I don't see any scenario where Ben is now "on not-Locke's side". He's biding his time until he can make a move. I agree with miami that Ben has ulterior motives. Of course, not-Locke also knows so in essence they are playing a high stakes game of chess.
 
What is this TV show-------Lost?
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It would not surprise me if everyone that was on Flight 815 shows up at the concert. I had heard that Shannon was making a return in the finale, so perhaps she ends up with Sayid after all. So Boone could also be there, as well as Charlie, whose band is likely going to make an appearance.

Remember that the island was shown submerged on the season opener. It would seem that in order for the timelines to merge, everyone that is currently on the island has to die when the island is destroyed. I can only think of two people who were originally on the island who ever left the island and survived off the island: Walt and Aaron--and they have not been featured in the alt timeline (remember: Aaron hasn't even been born in the alt timeline).

Finally, the show is heavily based on mythology, Stephen King's "The Stand," the Bible, and other sources. Check out Revelations 12 in the Bible and how some of it reads like Lost.
 
Hornhawk,
the name of the book in the Bible is 'Revelation' no 's'

(sorry, big pet peeve)
 
What do you make of Ben's statement at the end; "now, you got some more people that need killing", or something like that? Seems like he'll kill anybody to get his own way.
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I think when Ben was offered the island he went old school Ben immediately. He seemed really gun ho to continue the killing spree and he knows who mib wants killed.
 
I think of Ben as more of a coward lately. The "got more people to kill" line seemed like he was trying to cover up the fact that his killing of Widmore could be seen as covering up information, as Locke suggested when he said "luckily he already gave me the information"
 
Clean, we are presuming that Sayid did NOT throw the rope down there, right?

The producers have sworn up and down that the show will not end with a big reset button, or a a St Elsewhere style "It never happened"... In my mind the prime world being replaced by the Alt-world would pretty much be doing exactly that. The characters that we have invested 6 years in would cease to exist. There would be alt-world approximations, but that is not the same thing.

Which is to say, if only one world can survive, I'm going to feel cheated if the alt-world prevails.
 
Here's my crazy theory:

The Well of Light IS the alternate universe. Sort of a reincarnation where everyone gets a second chance at life, love, happiness, etc. People can't cross over into that world before they die, because an EM field protects that world from this world, keeping people from crossing over prematurely. When the man-in-black was thrown in, the protective barrier turned him into the Smoke Monster of the Island, and he's been keeping the souls of everyone on the island.

Thus, Desmond needs to be in the alt-universe pulling all the people who crossed over prematurely (people on the island) back into the real world, and my guess would be that Jack would be responsible for putting all the power that Locke 2.0 has back into the Well, where the Man-in-Black can have a happy second chance in the alt-universe.
 
And finally to bring the show full circle, the returned Islanders might be back on the plane going back to the original LA in the original universe, sans Jack of course..
 
I just wanted to be sure. It seemed that Sayid said "I left him in a well", which didn't necessarily preclude him from having walked away after throwing the rope in.

That was absolutely where they were heading when Jacob jumped in, but I was having a hard time figuring out if they were going to get him, or going to track him. At this point, Des would have been in that well without food for at least a couple of days, right?

Anywho, now that you've said it that way, it makes me think that Jacobs intervention right as they were heading to Desmond was not unintentional. Which is to say, whatever part that Des plays in Jacob's plan, that part is proceeding just fine without the candidate's intervention.
 
If Not-Locke promised Ben the island, but then later states that Desmond will help Not-Locke destroy the island, where does that put Ben?
 
The Man in Black is going to get off the Island and be replaced by Ben. Jack is the new Jacob and everyone else will get off the island.
 
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