Lord Soros is not happy

maddow told us that obama's backing was grass roots. this is interesting that there is an organized progressive infrastructure.....soros is a creepy dude. he reminds me of a bond villain...

Soros provided the following definition of an open society in his article, "The Capitalist Threat," in the February 1997 "Atlantic Monthly": "Societies derive their cohesion from shared values . . . religion, history, and tradition. When a society does not have boundaries where are the shared values to be found? . . . the concept of the open society itself."

In the intervening years, his more-than-generous financial support of a society without boundaries has contributed to the current open-borders immigration crisis being experienced by the United States, his adopted homeland.

The Open Society Institute is the cornerstone for the Soros Foundations Network, a group of Soros-funded organizations in more than 50 countries, which promote open-society concepts by influencing governmental policies.

The various branches and paid instrumentalities of the network include Democracy Alliance, MoveOn.org, America Coming Together, America Votes, The Center for American Progress, and other leftist front organizations, which advocate open borders for the United States — not for other nations but for the United States. These Soros-funded groups finance his camp followers, among them the Democratic Party, the National Organization of Women, abortion advocacy groups, various environmental groups, and last but not least, the increasingly powerful immigration special interest groups.

Born in Hungary in 1930 as Gyorgy Schwartz, he provides most of his own biographical data, which is thus open to verification. The family changed its name in 1936 to Soros, which in Hungarian means "successor" and in Esperanto means "to soar." His father was a devotee of Esperanto, a concocted one-world language introduced in 1887 by Ludwik Zamenhof, a Polish doctor. The Esperanto movement, based on Indo-European languages, continues to have followers today. The Soros name change was an effort to protect the Jewish family from the rise of fascist rulers. Young George Soros, a second-generation Esperanto, survived the fascists and then the communists and in 1946 defected to the West, while attending an Esperanto youth congress abroad.

He emigrated to England, where he enrolled in the London School of Economics. There, he came under the tutelage of Austrian-English philosopher of science, Karl Popper. After graduating in 1952, George Soros came to the United States in 1956 and went to work on Wall Street. Today his fortune is estimated at $7-11 billion. One of his companies, Quantum Fund, is based outside the United States, beyond U.S. government supervision, as apparently is most of the Soros fortune — off-shore for tax purposes.

Soros still quotes his mentor Karl Popper, who set forth a framework for governments in his book, "The Open Society and Its Enemies." Soros acknowledges that Popper's concept owes much to French philosopher Henri Louis Bergson (1859-1941). Popper, expanding on Bergson, developed "fallibilism," a theory that no entity possesses the ultimate truth, and to claim otherwise leads to repression or a closed society.

Human knowledge, Popper wrote, may be mistaken. While Popper claimed that "we may be wrong," his pupil Soros claims that "we are bound to be wrong." Both agreed that "right" and "wrong" or "good" and "bad" are rational concepts and evoke claims of certitude. In his later years, Popper became more of a libertarian, fearful of the abuses of power by socialists.

Today George Soros opines that the United States is the world's best example of an open society, despite the failings of the founding fathers and founding documents.

He holds that the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, based as they are on Enlightenment thinking, do not allow for modern skepticism and the limitations of the human mind. Soros holds that there is no certainty in life and no ultimate truth.

In his 1997 Atlantic Monthly article, he wrote, "The Declaration of Independence may be taken as a pretty good approximation of the principles of an open society, but instead of claiming those principles are self-evident, we ought to say that they are consistent with our fallibility."

He adds that the open society concept is highly sophisticated, and much more difficult to work with than the more primitive beliefs, such as, "my country (or my company or my family), right or wrong."

The Enlightenment refers to an 18th century European philosophy based on rationality together with belief and piety as a means to a system of aesthetics, ethics, and logic. The Age of Enlightenment, preceded by the Age of Reason, is credited with leading Europe and the world out of the Dark Ages by developing nation-states, sciences, social reforms, and political reformations. The Enlightenment was the basis for the American and French revolutions and ultimately for modern-day humanistic secularism. Open-society believers, while rejecting the rationalism of the Enlightenment, opt for its secularism to guide the restructuring of nation-states through social and political engineering.

Open-society advocates would reinterpret the U.S. Constitution to better suit the "age of fallibility," which no longer recognizes unalienable rights or divine providence. The Soros open-society concept requires that the United States be removed as a superpower and that the American people be subjected to the will and wants of all the world's people.

To support his belief that the human mind cannot fathom ultimate truth and reality, Soros apparently advocates the deconstruction of nations by educating the masses in open-society jargon.

His open society comes off as a bastardization of socialism and libertarianism. This mixed brew includes more taxes (but not on the Soros fortune), increased government spending, open borders, immigration entitlements for legal and illegal aliens, devaluing citizenship but promoting feminism, free abortions, affirmative action, and sex and gender rights. Incongruously he would lessen government intrusion while eliminating "excessive individualism." Essential to an open society is destruction of the nation-state authority, family structure, and religious beliefs, thus rendering national culture, heritage, and ethos meaningless.

Popper concluded that since science has no certain truths or secure foundations, a state should have no fixed virtues or heritage. While Soros molds Popper's concepts to his thinking, he notably refrains from directing any revisionism toward Muslim countries or organizations.

Open-society, open-borders advocates seek to vilify the United States as a war-mongering, empire-building, brutish abuser of the world's impoverished nations. The United States thus is worthy of internal and external contempt and global defeats as part of the nation's deconstruction.

Soros' latest book, The Age of Fallibility (Public Affairs 2006), is a pamphlet-like espousal of his beliefs, political, economic, philosophical, and nihilistic. In the book's prologue, he writes that the United States is the main obstacle to a stable and just world. Open-society billionaires like Soros are modern-day robber-barons who seek world domination –for themselves– by supporting all comers who attack the United States. The Democracy Alliance is a shadow group of billionaires led by Soros that acts as a financial clearinghouse to support radical left-wing groups. Under the guise of honest debate and political criticism, Soros and his followers seek a change in U.S. policies. In the United States, the Democrats are their party of choice, and the Democratic Party and its minions are receptive.

A current tool of deconstruction is the immigration chaos caused by 20 million illegal aliens residing in the United States. Add to this the proposed U.S. Senate immigration legislation supported by Soros-funded special interest groups. Open-society advocates realize that open borders can only mean a devaluation of citizenship, of voting, of patriotism, and love of country. Open borders mean equal opportunity for dismantling the United States.

Soros equates the Bush administration and conservatives to communists and Nazis. From Popper's theory that communism and fascism were philosophically linked, Soros goes a step further and declares that America is an open society that does not understand the concept of an open society and does not abide by its principles. According to him, U.S. democracy does not recognize that the ultimate truth is beyond our reach. In recent years, Soros has moved radically to the left both in his philosophy and politics.

In The Age of Fallibility, Soros gives immigration short shrift, saying that Europe, with an aging population, needs immigrants as an economic necessity. Soros brags that while he is a U.S. citizen, he is also a European. For open-society advocates, citizenship has little meaning.

President Theodore Roosevelt did not believe in hyphenated-Americans, let alone "Americans" who claim they owe allegiance to another country. In 2006, the Open Society Institute contributed to the U.S. Justice Fund, which, in turn, awarded a grant to the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, San Francisco office, to defend non-citizens in criminal and immigration matters and to combat the federal government's "inappropriate" use of local jails for detention of non-citizens.

Another grant went to an author to write articles on alleged immigration enforcement excesses for magazines and newspapers, thus attempting to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and open borders.

Organizations that receive Soros funding, directly or indirectly, include Human Rights Watch, the Center for American Progress, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), and the New Democrat Network (NDN). As an example of what these organizations do, the NDN operates the Hispanic Strategy Center to assist immigrants, legal and illegal. The goal is to extend the vote to all non-citizens and to assure that they vote the Democratic ticket.

The old bromides–environmental degradation, abortion, anti-war, poverty, human rights, justice for all, health care for all, and peace at any price are being doled out to a new generation in the hope that enough naïve, poorly educated U.S. citizens will support the open-society agenda.

Rebuttal

Despite well-financed promotions of the open-society philosophy, the United States remains a republic based on inalienable rights of the individual and guidance by divine providence.

Enlightened self interest keeps the nation strong. Culture, ethos, heritage, and language are the foundation of a nation's sovereignty, of its very existence. The United States of America is blessed with one constitution, one flag, one language, and one people owing allegiance to one nation under God with liberty and justice for all.

The history of the United States is one of assimilation, with immigrants embracing U.S. values. These values still stand in opposition to nouveau open-society dogmatists led today by seekers of a one-world government, perhaps speaking Esperanto.
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What's more telling is we have glaring examples on the left and right that rich people wish to control and influence our lives with money damning any of our own wishes and desires in a "free" society.

Middle America (and this likely means the middle 95%) needs to wake up and tell Soros and Buffet to take their money and stick it where the sun don't shine.

We are so screwed if we don't collectively do this or maybe we can ***** some more about illegal immigration, birth certificates and gay marriage while we economically and politically do lap dances for the elite.
 
who? this stuff about soros is well documented....from him... you think he is just a sweet old man that wants what is best for the united states?
 
i know who scaife is, i was referring to lord radio. regardless, how is scaife against free speech? he owns a newspaper. he is also one of the major donors to pbs. he may be right wing but he isnt a crack-pot. it isnt like he made up the clinton harassment story.
 
satchel's brand of free speech is for investigative journalism to be directed at conservatives only. any corruption or scandal that occurs by a progressive is somehow a free speech issue.
 
i don't know how anyone can think Soros is anything but a rich, nutty, megalomaniac. Remember he was pushing his "reflexive" theory of finance a few years ago, which actually had some decent ideas, but he promoted it like he was the einstein of finance and this was his relativity.

another beneficiary (and parasite) of capitalism that is hell bent on destroying it
 
Soros wants other people to do what he wants because he has a bunch of money. That's about as conservative as it gets, and I mean "convervative" in the "people have been pulling this **** since wealth was measured in cattle" sense.

Soros is an asshat, but he's got a lot of company from people of every stated political affiliation.
 
I agree that he is being demonized. To some extent he brings it upon himself, probably more so than Sarah Palin. I did an image search and found:


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Okay now don't point out the obvious, for your sake.
 
general35 said:
maddow told us that obama's backing was grass roots. this is interesting that there is an organized progressive infrastructure.....soros is a creepy dude. he reminds me of a bond villain...

Soros provided the following definition of an open society in his article, "The Capitalist Threat," in the February 1997 "Atlantic Monthly": "Societies derive their cohesion from shared values . . . religion, history, and tradition. When a society does not have boundaries where are the shared values to be found? . . . the concept of the open society itself."

In the intervening years, his more-than-generous financial support of a society without boundaries has contributed to the current open-borders immigration crisis being experienced by the United States, his adopted homeland.

The Open Society Institute is the cornerstone for the Soros Foundations Network, a group of Soros-funded organizations in more than 50 countries, which promote open-society concepts by influencing governmental policies.

The various branches and paid instrumentalities of the network include Democracy Alliance, MoveOn.org, America Coming Together, America Votes, The Center for American Progress, and other leftist front organizations, which advocate open borders for the United States — not for other nations but for the United States. These Soros-funded groups finance his camp followers, among them the Democratic Party, the National Organization of Women, abortion advocacy groups, various environmental groups, and last but not least, the increasingly powerful immigration special interest groups.

Born in Hungary in 1930 as Gyorgy Schwartz, he provides most of his own biographical data, which is thus open to verification. The family changed its name in 1936 to Soros, which in Hungarian means "successor" and in Esperanto means "to soar." His father was a devotee of Esperanto, a concocted one-world language introduced in 1887 by Ludwik Zamenhof, a Polish doctor. The Esperanto movement, based on Indo-European languages, continues to have followers today. The Soros name change was an effort to protect the Jewish family from the rise of fascist rulers. Young George Soros, a second-generation Esperanto, survived the fascists and then the communists and in 1946 defected to the West, while attending an Esperanto youth congress abroad.

He emigrated to England, where he enrolled in the London School of Economics. There, he came under the tutelage of Austrian-English philosopher of science, Karl Popper. After graduating in 1952, George Soros came to the United States in 1956 and went to work on Wall Street. Today his fortune is estimated at $7-11 billion. One of his companies, Quantum Fund, is based outside the United States, beyond U.S. government supervision, as apparently is most of the Soros fortune — off-shore for tax purposes.

Soros still quotes his mentor Karl Popper, who set forth a framework for governments in his book, "The Open Society and Its Enemies." Soros acknowledges that Popper's concept owes much to French philosopher Henri Louis Bergson (1859-1941). Popper, expanding on Bergson, developed "fallibilism," a theory that no entity possesses the ultimate truth, and to claim otherwise leads to repression or a closed society.

Human knowledge, Popper wrote, may be mistaken. While Popper claimed that "we may be wrong," his pupil Soros claims that "we are bound to be wrong." Both agreed that "right" and "wrong" or "good" and "bad" are rational concepts and evoke claims of certitude. In his later years, Popper became more of a libertarian, fearful of the abuses of power by socialists.

Today George Soros opines that the United States is the world's best example of an open society, despite the failings of the founding fathers and founding documents.

He holds that the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, based as they are on Enlightenment thinking, do not allow for modern skepticism and the limitations of the human mind. Soros holds that there is no certainty in life and no ultimate truth.

In his 1997 Atlantic Monthly article, he wrote, "The Declaration of Independence may be taken as a pretty good approximation of the principles of an open society, but instead of claiming those principles are self-evident, we ought to say that they are consistent with our fallibility."

He adds that the open society concept is highly sophisticated, and much more difficult to work with than the more primitive beliefs, such as, "my country (or my company or my family), right or wrong."

The Enlightenment refers to an 18th century European philosophy based on rationality together with belief and piety as a means to a system of aesthetics, ethics, and logic. The Age of Enlightenment, preceded by the Age of Reason, is credited with leading Europe and the world out of the Dark Ages by developing nation-states, sciences, social reforms, and political reformations. The Enlightenment was the basis for the American and French revolutions and ultimately for modern-day humanistic secularism. Open-society believers, while rejecting the rationalism of the Enlightenment, opt for its secularism to guide the restructuring of nation-states through social and political engineering.

Open-society advocates would reinterpret the U.S. Constitution to better suit the "age of fallibility," which no longer recognizes unalienable rights or divine providence. The Soros open-society concept requires that the United States be removed as a superpower and that the American people be subjected to the will and wants of all the world's people.

To support his belief that the human mind cannot fathom ultimate truth and reality, Soros apparently advocates the deconstruction of nations by educating the masses in open-society jargon.

His open society comes off as a bastardization of socialism and libertarianism. This mixed brew includes more taxes (but not on the Soros fortune), increased government spending, open borders, immigration entitlements for legal and illegal aliens, devaluing citizenship but promoting feminism, free abortions, affirmative action, and sex and gender rights. Incongruously he would lessen government intrusion while eliminating "excessive individualism." Essential to an open society is destruction of the nation-state authority, family structure, and religious beliefs, thus rendering national culture, heritage, and ethos meaningless.

Popper concluded that since science has no certain truths or secure foundations, a state should have no fixed virtues or heritage. While Soros molds Popper's concepts to his thinking, he notably refrains from directing any revisionism toward Muslim countries or organizations.

Open-society, open-borders advocates seek to vilify the United States as a war-mongering, empire-building, brutish abuser of the world's impoverished nations. The United States thus is worthy of internal and external contempt and global defeats as part of the nation's deconstruction.

Soros' latest book, The Age of Fallibility (Public Affairs 2006), is a pamphlet-like espousal of his beliefs, political, economic, philosophical, and nihilistic. In the book's prologue, he writes that the United States is the main obstacle to a stable and just world. Open-society billionaires like Soros are modern-day robber-barons who seek world domination –for themselves– by supporting all comers who attack the United States. The Democracy Alliance is a shadow group of billionaires led by Soros that acts as a financial clearinghouse to support radical left-wing groups. Under the guise of honest debate and political criticism, Soros and his followers seek a change in U.S. policies. In the United States, the Democrats are their party of choice, and the Democratic Party and its minions are receptive.

A current tool of deconstruction is the immigration chaos caused by 20 million illegal aliens residing in the United States. Add to this the proposed U.S. Senate immigration legislation supported by Soros-funded special interest groups. Open-society advocates realize that open borders can only mean a devaluation of citizenship, of voting, of patriotism, and love of country. Open borders mean equal opportunity for dismantling the United States.

Soros equates the Bush administration and conservatives to communists and Nazis. From Popper's theory that communism and fascism were philosophically linked, Soros goes a step further and declares that America is an open society that does not understand the concept of an open society and does not abide by its principles. According to him, U.S. democracy does not recognize that the ultimate truth is beyond our reach. In recent years, Soros has moved radically to the left both in his philosophy and politics.

In The Age of Fallibility, Soros gives immigration short shrift, saying that Europe, with an aging population, needs immigrants as an economic necessity. Soros brags that while he is a U.S. citizen, he is also a European. For open-society advocates, citizenship has little meaning.

President Theodore Roosevelt did not believe in hyphenated-Americans, let alone "Americans" who claim they owe allegiance to another country. In 2006, the Open Society Institute contributed to the U.S. Justice Fund, which, in turn, awarded a grant to the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, San Francisco office, to defend non-citizens in criminal and immigration matters and to combat the federal government's "inappropriate" use of local jails for detention of non-citizens.

Another grant went to an author to write articles on alleged immigration enforcement excesses for magazines and newspapers, thus attempting to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and open borders.

Organizations that receive Soros funding, directly or indirectly, include Human Rights Watch, the Center for American Progress, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), and the New Democrat Network (NDN). As an example of what these organizations do, the NDN operates the Hispanic Strategy Center to assist immigrants, legal and illegal. The goal is to extend the vote to all non-citizens and to assure that they vote the Democratic ticket.

The old bromides–environmental degradation, abortion, anti-war, poverty, human rights, justice for all, health care for all, and peace at any price are being doled out to a new generation in the hope that enough naïve, poorly educated U.S. citizens will support the open-society agenda.

Rebuttal

Despite well-financed promotions of the open-society philosophy, the United States remains a republic based on inalienable rights of the individual and guidance by divine providence.

Enlightened self interest keeps the nation strong. Culture, ethos, heritage, and language are the foundation of a nation's sovereignty, of its very existence. The United States of America is blessed with one constitution, one flag, one language, and one people owing allegiance to one nation under God with liberty and justice for all.

The history of the United States is one of assimilation, with immigrants embracing U.S. values. These values still stand in opposition to nouveau open-society dogmatists led today by seekers of a one-world government, perhaps speaking Esperanto.
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Bump - from 2010.
 
general35 said:
The United States of America is blessed with one constitution, one flag, one language, and one people owing allegiance to one nation under God with liberty and justice for all.
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This is correct. Misguided folks ("Useful idiots" in the lingo of the far left--said term was coined by Stalin) pushing secession from the Union are allies of Soros, whether they realize it or not.

Some people must think they're living 160 years ago.
 
Chop said:
This is correct. Misguided folks ("Useful idiots" in the lingo of the far left--said term was coined by Stalin) pushing secession from the Union are allies of Soros, whether they realize it or not.

Some people must think they're living 160 years ago.
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Soros wants the current system to continue where the federal government controls the state government through funding. Then through NGOs and other federal spending they capture media, entertainment, churches, and academia. The Deep State blob is what Soros and his ilk want. They would hate for States to secede or nullify federal law or repudiate federal spending in their state. The only way to preserve rights may be to leave the union. The union is a human political institution that is bound to fail just like every other human political institution in the history of the world. So we might as well do what we need to protect ourselves from government tyranny.
 
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