Lamarr Houston... excellent Kirk Bohls report

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A thread on the topic already exists, but to add this to the end of it only brings up pages of old and frustrated news on the story.

I'm posting this because I'm one of the first to be extremely frustrated and angry when this happens, and I tend to get down on the player(s) involved -- almost to the point I could care less about sports news for several days.

I'm also critical of Kirk. However, I found this report reassuring, not only for an open concern that the risks and lessons of drinking and driving need to be more in the public awareness, but also I feel much better about Lamarr Houston and really feel for the guy. I think some players in the past have been more than careless, but this time it was Careless Lite, if that can be applied.

I think the guy will come back and get past this. And honestly I mean that for his own life as an individual and not just for my benefit as a fan wanting to see untainted players on the field at all times. So, this is just a head's up on a report in today's sports section, available online, and I was glad to read it, whereas I don't recall much in the way of positive followup news in the past couple of years when these mistakes happened to the players.

This time, I think it may turn out okay. Lesson learned, mishap gotten past, and what I think is a really good man will move on and -- well, from a fan's point of view... I'd sure hate to be an offensive player opposing him when he gets back on the field.

Kirk Bohl's feature on Lamar Houston, on Statesman Sports Section front page, Sept. 3
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I've driven drunk. I'd bet that 98 percent of the posters on these boards have, too.

The difference is that we are not scholarship athletes whose every off-the-field move is scrutinized by the media and who are looked up to as gods by young children. They chose to be role models the day they signed on the dotted line.

I hope that Lamarr and his teammates -- all of them -- have taken something positive from this experience and recognize that they must uphold a higher standard of behavior than the average college student.
 
There is no excuse for driving drunk. I do it often, if the .08 limit is the guide, but there is no excuse.

That said, a one or two game suspension is ample in this case. Some suggested that this kid should be tossed, etc. Nonsense. He made a mistake, will take his punishment, go form there.

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Not being mean or anything but I have a few friends that are preacher's kids and assuming that preacher's kids are saints is completely wrong
 
It is always a one time mistake when it is the one get busted for. He is a leader and him talking to the teams shows that. Now he will have to be a leader by taking responsibility by accepting whatever punishment Mack gives him. I would say a 3 game suspension is just based on what happened last year.

I would like to know what is BAC was as well. That could factor into the suspension. Was there any video of him doing the field sobriety tests?

Hopefully Lamarr can turn this negative into a positive and this team can move on from that. Too slight a punishment would send a porr example to the younger kids.
 
I've been reading these posts and I am so tired of them. 98% might have driven drunk and if that is true than it is truly a sad sad day. I have never driven drunk. I don't drink. I'm not on a high horse here, but it so pathetic listening to the arguments about everyone has done it. If you choose to get drunk, I have no problem with you risking your own life. I have no tolerance for people who drink and drive. I think you are pathetic and have no concern for other human lives. Other people should not be at risk because you are an idiiot. Not preaching, but this is a sore subject.
 
Here is some food for thought: would it be considered an NCAA violation to offer some kind of ridefinder service to drive our players safely home after they have been out partying too much? I can see both pros and cons to this.

Pros:

* Increase public safety by keeping our drunk players off the roads.
* Avoid embarrassing PR problems with DWI arrests.

Cons:

* Might encourage excessive drinking. But hey, they are college kids -- do they need any encouragement in this area?
* May not teach personal responsibility by taking ownership of one's drinking.
* We already bend over backward far too much for our athletes as it is (tutors, study halls, etc.).

I know we would all probably rather that our athletes not drink, but let's be realistic. They are college kids, and that is what college kids often do.

As for Lamarr, he made a mistake. Not to excuse his mistake, but people are human. Luckily nobody was injured or killed as a result of his mistake. I am confident that the staff will handle this in an appropriate manner, and the punishment will fit the crime. It is not our decision to make. Hopefully he will learn from this and not make the same mistake again.
 
I am with the Sooner here. Where the heck do people get off pulling in figures like 98%? I've never driven drunk. Just cuz you do it (and maybe your circle of friends)...don't imagine everyone else does it.

Call a cab. Factor it in before you drink. Or if you drink with friends, take turns being the designated driver.

done preaching.
 
If it were to be a service that was provided to all students I would be all for it, if it was made available to just student-athletes that would be ********. They do need to learn to be responsible for car-pooling, getting cabs, walking home, or however they get home other then driving if they are going to make a decision to drink. To provide them with free rides home just to prevent an embarrassing arrest or PR nightmare would be extremely lame and an insult to every other student on campus that wants to drive home from a party just so they could sleep in their own bed that night.

When I went to Texas State there was a free service that was provided by the school where fellow students would pick you up from a party and take you home without any questions asked. All you would have to do was provide your student ID and you had a ride, no interrogating questions or anything. The service would only take you home though, not to other parties or Taco Cabana for some late night breakfast tacos...
 
Amen homer.

As for the car service, I would be all for it. I would even donate the money to get it started. I am not against drinking. I don't drink, but that is me, I just believe there is nothing good that comes from drinking. A car service would be great, but it will probably never happen. There will be arguments about treating student athletes different and what about all the other college students that don't play sports. And the NCAA would probably never let it happen.
 
um what the hell happened to the UTDDP program?

THAT is available to all freaking students living in the Austin area.

did the funding get dumped on that program?
 
I have never been a fan of all Kirk's articles about the football team, but he knocked one out of the park on this one. He deserves a reward on that well written article.
Just hope everyone gets a chance to read it and then practices limits on alcohol intake.
 
I never said that a student-athlete driving while drunk was more serious than an average person. My point was that no one holds the average Joe up to national criticism beyond what he receives in the legal system. Average Joes who have had DWIs did not have theirs reported on ESPN or even the local television news, although it does make the papers (as it should). But Average Joes are not in public eye, whereas student-athletes, particularly football players, are.

My point was that student-athletes must expect closer scrutiny than average Joes.

I think some of you deliberately misunderstood what I was saying.

As for the 98 percent, I'm the one that wrote that. Bully for you if you've never taken a drink or driven drunk. Most of us have taken more than a few drinks, and most of us have gotten behind the wheel of our car when we should not have. Great for you and your moral high horse if you've never done it. But most adults have -- maybe only once, but most have done it.
 
seriously.....you folks that keep saying that ninety x percent of people have driven drunk run in strange circles indeed. i guarantee you i have never driven drunk and i know tons of people who have not driven drunk. to assume that 49 out of 50 people have driven drunk is just crazy talk.
 
I don't condone driving while impaired. But impaired can mean many things.

So for all you non drinkers you DO need get off the high horse. While driving have you ever sped, talked on the phone, ate, drank a beverage, put on makeup, talked to another person, fiddled with the radio or a cd, had a fight with the significant other, discipline your kids, etc etc? All these things impair the driver and take away from the attention and reaction time.

Is the reason for impairment more important than the result of it?
 
I've driven drunk tons of times, but only a fraction as many as most of my friends. Fortunately, no one has ever been hurt. And as I've gotten older, I've done it less and less.

I currently don't own a car and I don't drive. It's much better that way. I don't have to worry about nuttin"!

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"How do you feel about putting close friends in comas and then getting a medical redshirt granted by the NCAA? "

Stupid post. Because it was a Sooner I automatically condone it? That is like me saying ALL Texans smoke weed and break into apartments to get their plasma screen tv back.
 
Drinking and driving is bad, no matter how you slice it. Many have done it, many have not. The point is that everyone needs to realize its dangers and make the right choice. Lamarr made a bad choice that does not reflect his character, but rather a momentary lapse in judgement. He should not be crucified for his mistake, since many also make this mistake, but used as an example of a good person who makes an out of character mistake. It was a good person with great character who had a "tragic flaw", he should be punished for his action, and he should take it upon himself to teach his teammates that there are many, many, other alternatives to drinking and driving.

Lamarr Houston is a great football player and a good person, serve the suspension, teach others from your mistakes, and get back on the field and do what you do. It is up to everyone else to forgive and realize our own short comings and momentary lapses in judgement no matter what they may be.
 
Were a Top 10 football program - dammit these guys need an entourage to prevent this ****. You can't tell me a starter on our team can't find a "Turtle" to hand over the keys to.
 
For him it was good probably because there will hopefully be a valuable lesson learned for him and others. The difference between Houston doing it and others is that he had a wreck that caused authorities to be aware.

I have driven probably under the influence once. When I realized I didn't need to be driving I stopped where I worked and sat there a while until I had sobered up enough to be aware of what I was doing driving home.
 
First of all , I didn't say anything about hornfans. This is a hornfan message board, I know, but I would say the same thing on any other message board. I didn't say one word about the punishment. I could care less. All I care is that someone drove drunk and risked the lives of others. That's all I care about. I don't care about putting it in context. I feel strongly about it and I don't like seeing people act lke it's nothing. That was what I was trying to say. This is not a Sooner vs. Hornfan thing. It is a human being thing.
 
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