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Cabin Fever
Thu May 8 10/9c

Locke is enlightened as to the whereabouts of Jacob's cabin, and life aboard the freighter becomes perilous.
 
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Due to the Strike, they are cramming the last 8 episodes into 5, so there are only going to be 2 more after tonight.
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At least that's how I understand it.
 
Great. Another final confrontation with an ominous outside force.

This is approaching Friends and Grey's Anatomy in it's repetitiveness. Get on with it already.
 
Season finale is 2 hours, i believe. And, according to actress who plays Red, is gonna be wild. Arent they all.

So the distance between Bali and Fiji may be closing..... I read where the producers said they will have a scientific explanation for everything. If so, that one should be good.

That was almost an entire episode without one of the hot chicks. Saved in the end by the now weird Claire (still the hottest chick on the show). She seems to have reconciled rather well with the dingos that took her baby.

Has the island been following each person all along like it did Locke? I guess we know why he went to Australia now. So he could go on a walkabout once healed.

The Suddenly Susan dude sure ages well.
 
After tonight, I'm worried that Desmond isn't going to make it. I'm wondering if his arc is finished now that he's reached Penny.
 
He better freakin make it. Desmond is my favorite character. Besides, I foresee a situation where Sayid must decide between killing Penelope as Ben wants, and sparing her for Desmond's sake. It wont be nearly as interesting if Desmond is already dead.

At least we learned tonight that Locke isn't the Dalai Lama.
 
Any more revelations after they entered the cabin & found Claire & Claire's dad/Jack's dad inside? I nodded off. Tough day.
 
OK, so my girlfriend is totally convinced that Christian Shepard never actually died, but instead was working to get everyone on that plane. I can't disagree with her, does anyone know a reason that she'd be wrong?
 
I found this on LOSTPEDIA. Its all stuff that the producers/creators have stated:



Christian's death, though not shown on-screen, has been confirmed in a Official LOST podcast (April 20, 2007 Edition). However, in later statements the creators of Lost qualified their statement by saying that they "may be using the word 'dead' in a sense we (the audience) don't fully understand yet." Even further clarification was received in "Access: Granted", when Carlton Cuse stated "In terms of actually physically corporally in existence... he's dead".
 
I still hold to my original theory.

The island is Purgatory.

Everyone on the Island (main characters at least) have either killed someone or been responsible for someone's death.

Once they "earn" salvation by redeeming themselves, they get off the island.
 
OK So what's the deal with Alpert? I guess he has to be time traveling or something. Also that comic book he had that said Hidden Land looked like a city that was floating on clouds.

I didnt understand that scene with young Locke and leaving after he grabbed the knife.
 
This is my theory, take it for what it is.

We know from Faraday's experiment at Cambridge, that it is possible for your consciousness to travel in time as a response to exposure to certain energies. The island itself is a natural and powerful generator of those energies.

There appear to be several "rules" of time travel.
1. You seem to travel Quantum Leap style, only to times in which you have lived, usually to your own body in the other time.
2. There is a physical toll to time travel, though you don't seem to directly physically age from it.
3. A time traveler can not be killed before the times they've visited because of paradox.
4. Time traveler's CAN effect the outcome of events in their past.

The objective of the Dharma Initiative (lead by Hanso and Widmore) was to study the effects of island, and determine if it was possible to travel not just with your mind but with your body as well. This was successful in at least two cases (Alpert and Abbadon). There was a schizm between those which became "The Others" and Widmore/Dharma, which seems to be based on the motivation on how the island would be used.

The exposure to the energies of the island results in time travel in some form naturally, if not done in a precise manner your consciousness can become fully unanchored from a "present" which results in potentially fatal shock. If, however, it is done precisely the time travel is subtle and somewhat unconscious. The "flashbacks" which are the hallmark of the series are more than expository, they represent literal unconscious shifts in time for the individuals. These shifts in time have a net effect on the complex systems of our bodies which result, amoungst other things, in the unnatural aging of the female reproductive system.

Alpert showed Locke the items not as a reincarnation test (this same setup is used to find the reincarnated Dalai Lama) but rather to determine if Locke was retaining some form of his consciousness during his unconscious time travels. Which is to say, he was showing child Locke future possessions not past possessions, and hoping Locke would "remember" them. This begs the question of what Alpert was trying to accomplish. What could Locke do in that time that Alpert himself would not be able to?

Michael is unable to be killed because he has travelled to the future. Presumably this is true for Ben and Charles Widmore as well. Once they've "caught up" they will become mortal again. The smoke monster, ghosts and other general weirdness is simply the timeline attempting to reconcile paradox caused by the travellers.
 
I thought they got the idea from Survivor (and its success)?

I still say that Desmond phone call episode was one of the best hours of television ever.
 
Some of it is personal theory some of it is based off of hints from the producers. As far as I know, no one else has ever suggested that the flashbacks were anything but expository. That said, ever since the Desmond episode in the begining og 3rd season, it has been nagging at me. The flashbacks are ubiquitus, so either the Desmond episode was a huge step from the theme, or a hint of things to come.

That said, the producers have been upfront for a couple of years that time travel was the heart of the "magic" of the island, so that isn't much of a stretch. We know definitively that if you don't come to the island by a precise bearing you become unanchored (Desmond, and radio dude), we know that those who are unanchored can "change" the past, and we know that Alpert alone (and I'm guessing Abbadon) seemingly doesn't age. I'm guessing that he DOES age and when we see him he is moving through time. We know that time on the island does not equal time off the island and it can be "behind" (as with Faraday's rocket) or in "front" (as with the Doctor's body), just as easy. We know Widmore is Dharma (the "backup plan" Kheme opened last night had a Dharma cover). We know that Hanso is Dharma. We know that both have a connection to the Black Rock (Widmore buying relics, and Magnus Hanso was apparently aboard the Black Rock), and the "discovery" of the island. We don't know much about Alpert and Abbadon, except Abbadon apparently has a connection to Widmore and Alpert is a "Hostile", so their interests seem to be in conflict.

So I'm just connecting the dots in the manner I find to be most satisfying.
 
Flashbacks. Flashforwards. Whatever, dude. What they need are Kate flashes, Juliet flashes, Claire flashes, Charlotte flahsess, Sun flahses, and Shannon flashes. This episode had none of that. Epic fail.

On a side note, I've read that the producers are upfront about occasionally lying to the audience. They'll do it if some smart person happens to guess an important plot point, because they don't want to ruin it for everyone by giving the story away before it's aired. So, just because Cuse or Lindeloff say it's not so....
 
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