kids, take the pledge of allegiance to mexico...

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in mcallen of course but its ok because its mexican cultural awaremess month or something. i didnt think they really needed such a thing in mcallen, it practically is mexico...still, we are in the united states and you can do other things to appreciate mexican culture other than reciting a pledge of allegiance...
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Why not have the srudents recite the Pledge to our country in Spanish?

What is the purpose of making the sudents recite a pledge to another country?
 
rv?
Who on here beside You said it was the entire school or even intimated it was the entire school?

Who besides you used the word treason?

Nice strawmen
 
The fact that's it's a Spanish Class assignment is an important piece of context left out of the OP.

Outside of that context, one could (I did) assume that the op was concerned that loyalty to a country other than the Good Ol' USA was the intent of having students act in this way.

In fact, the op seems to particularly want to muddy the context by attributing the action to "its mexican cultural awaremess month or something."

Not surprised that you don't really know what a strawman argument is.

Now call me "snarky" and declare victory.
 
i drove by a school yesterday and the information sign in front was in spanish. i'm just saying....we are in the united states, not in los estados unidos.
 
Let me ask a question, would it have been an issue to learn the USA Pledge of Alegiance with or without the god reference?

Why not study the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance, dissect it's meaning, and or dissect the sentences? Why does it have to be recited, and how does that help learn the language and meaning?

Maybe the teacher being a Mexican National has something to do with it, teaching in the USA, wonder about her immigration status, or does she just commute every day?
 
It already has, it already has.
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Hornsforever, you joke about that, but that is exactly what is happening, very very slowly. But it probably wont matter for another 20 years, but hey, the USA kis killing itself slowly, so it doesnt hurt as much.

On point though, why dont they recite the Spanish National Anthem? Spanish is a European language. Shouldnt they be talking about Spain?
 
So in the body of the OP it was not mentioned that this was a spanish class
and yet all on here got it. Hmm How? Oh right, they read the link the Poster provided
so obviously the Op was not Hiding or obfuscating that.

and who other than rv mentioned treason?why yes That is a strawman.

The source of the story does not change that it happened. students were required to recite a pledge of allegiance to another country. WHY?
Why not have them learn and recite their own pledge in Spanish?
 
But it probably wont matter for another 20 years, but hey, the USA kis killing itself slowly, so it doesnt hurt as much.
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this is basically what pat buchanan's new book is about....
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I wouldn't care about this one way or another, but if you're having a kid stand up and recite the pledge, how is that not an oath? Or do we just not care anymore about stuff like that?

Personally, if I pledge allegience to something, I don't see how I can keep my fingers crossed and say "nope, didn't mean it". But that's just me.

I guess I don't get why they had to recite it as a pledge? Why not just learn it - or more to the point, what does learning that pledge actually teach them?
 
How many would have become more loyal to Mexico after being made to recite the pledge is the more important question.

It was a poor assignment that should be nowhere near national news. Let me know when it becomes a part of the state standards or part of a major curriculum and not just one lazy teacher that didn't feel like coming up with a worthwhile assignment.
 
general, what school did you pass by that had the sign out front in Spanish? A LOT of your posts sound completely made up.
 
You're confusing hyperbole to expose an absurdity with a strawman argument. This isn't being jumped up to a national concern based on a poor lesson plan. I was responding to the notion that somehow the issue is that a Pledge of Allegiance actually includes a pledge of allegiance.

I doubt any students felt that they were held to that pledge anymore than actors who perform a marriage ceremony in a play feel that they are actually married. (They aren't, in case anyone is unsure about this. So don't worry that a gay marriage performed in a dramatic production is setting some kind of legal precedent.)
 
If they are anything like the spanish speaking kids at my school, 90% of them could use a spanish class. What they speak is not the same spanish you would learn in a class. Its a spanglish mix that wouldn't serve them well in most educated business circles.

So, basically, they need a spanish class like most american kids need an english class.
 
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