Kids in mexico etc get billions of taxpayer money.

Horn6721

Hook'em
This is as stunning to me as it ws to the US congressman who was gven the results of this investigation
from link
""Why in the world are we doing this?" he asked. "Are you kidding me? The cost to the American tax payer is huge!"

The veteran lawmaker is responding to what 13 Investigates discovered all across Indiana: illegal immigrants getting big tax refunds from the Internal Revenue Service thanks to a loophole in federal law.

MORE: Tax loophole costs billions

The loophole allows undocumented workers to collect what's called an additional child tax credit. The credit – up to $1,000 per child – can be claimed even by families who pay nothing in taxes, in many cases resulting in a cash payment from the IRS. It is intended for working families with children who live in the same home.

But a local tax preparer came to Eyewitness News to blow the whistle on millions of people who, he believes, are taking advantage of the system. He says many illegal immigrants are claiming the tax credit for children who've never lived in this country, and he showed 13 Investigates
and
'Exposing the loophole

An undocumented worker in southern Indiana told 13 Investigates just how easy it truly is.

He said four other illegal immigrants file tax returns using his address, even though none of them actually lives there. And he said this year, those four workers filed tax returns claiming 20 children live inside his small trailer home. As a result, the IRS sent the illegal immigrants tax refunds totaling more than $29,000.

But none of the 20 children listed as dependents on the tax returns lives in Indiana – or even in the United States.

"No, they don't live here," admitted the undocumented worker, who lives with his young daughter. "The other kids are in their country of origin, which is Mexico."

The IRS granted tax credits for the 20 children anyway, even though the agency's own policy states they are not eligible. (Children are eligible for additional child tax credits only if they are US citizens or minor resident aliens who live in the US with a tax filer for more than half of a calendar year.)
"Eyewitness News obtained US Treasury Department audit reports that show illegal immigrants now get additional child tax credits totaling $4.2 billion dollars each year. The department's Inspector General for Tax Administration has repeatedly warned the IRS that undocumented workers are abusing the additional child tax credit.

"Millions of people are seeking this credit who, we believe, are not entitled to it," said inspector general Russell George. "We have made recommendations to [IRS] as to how they could address this and they have not taken sufficient action in our view to solve the problem. It's very troubling."

Why has the IRS done nothing?

Despite phone calls, emails, even a visit to IRS headquarters in Washington to get answers, no one at the IRS would meet with WTHR.
much more atThe Link

A bill to stop this will likely pass the House in May but is expected to die in the Senate.
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Obama (and by extension, his supporters) approves of this raping of the U.S. Treasury.
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I used to laugh at the Cloward and Piven accusations. I'm not laughing anymore.
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I love it when the poor find a loophole. The rich pay people lots of money to find and create loopholes so they can avoid taxes, the poor just play the hand they were dealt. Love it.
 
I'm not OK with cheating on taxes. You guys ready to fund a tougher, smarter IRS that audits a lot more pepole and starts visiting or driving by homes to check plausability of tax returns? I'm sure the news station devoted a lot more resources to checking the tax returns that was available to the IRS who by and large takes are word for it that we are honest when we fill out the forms.
 
knoxville
If the illegal gets an ITIN and lists his /her legal or illegal children living here in USA there isn't much that could be done right now

but these illegals are listing children NOt living here and for which they provide no proof they actually exist.
In one household in the investigation the IRS sent 29,000 for children not living here. ONE household.

This is not BO's fault .
But now that it has been brought to the public eye I can't understand why it can't be stopped.


Sadly I am not sure if people like chango or rickys even understand what is going on and in that they may be like the people at the IRS
 
And I'd be willing to bet my life savings that by and large, the only ones filing are the ones gaming the system, like in the OP article.
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Buckjorn??
WTF? Not clear how widespread it is?
really
this from link
:Billions already paid

Eyewitness News obtained US Treasury Department audit reports that show illegal immigrants now get additional child tax credits totaling $4.2 billion dollars each year. "
"The department's Inspector General for Tax Administration has repeatedly warned the IRS that undocumented workers are abusing the additional child tax credit.

"Millions of people are seeking this credit who, we believe, are not entitled to it," said inspector general Russell George. "We have made recommendations to [IRS] as to how they could address this and they have not taken sufficient action in our view to solve the problem. It's very troubling."


So a Treasuery Inspector gneral thinsk it is a problem.
would anyone care to guess how many of the " kids:"really exist or live in USA
AS someone pointed out illegals get ITIN #, fill in 8-10 dependents so they don't pay any federal income taxes
and then get money back from us taxpayers.
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It is a problem, but, at present, it may be more cost efficient to tolerate it that to fix it.

The tax preparer 'whistle blower' said he thought millions were doing it, though he obviously doesn't have adequate info to back that assessment.

The TIG said he thought millions were 'seeking' the benefit who did not properly qualify, which isn't the same thing as saying that millions were getting the credit. He also does not state that illegals cannot get the credit legitimately.

The IRS probably doesn't have the capacity to hunt down a bunch of $1000 fraud leads. How much of their claim that the law needs changed is a cop out is anyone's guess. It would be interesting to see the fallout from an attempt to disqualify all illegals from receiving the credit. Good luck on that front.
 
buck is that really an arigment you think is calid? Theat the Inspector General of the Treasury said millions were ' seeking" but you don't think they are getting these EITC dollars?Really?


Btw
here ,from the IRS website is an explanation for ITIN/s and whether people using them are qualified to get EITC
"If a primary taxpayer, spouse, or both have ITINs, they are ineligible
to receive the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), even if their dependents have valid SSNs. If the taxpayer and spouse (if filing jointly) have valid SSNs, only dependents with valid SSNs –
not ITINs – qualify to receive EITC.The Link

So I guess we are to believe there is NO way for the IRS to flag returns that do not have required information?

BS
they sill send a form back if there is no signature .

so how is this even happening?
 
simplifying our tax code is one of the most democratic things we could undertake right now. it has been so abused by both sides over the last 70 years that it is an embarrasment.

It causes substantial distortion to our economy and unjustly rewards both replublicans and democrats.

Flat tax. No deductions. entire code should be under 200 pages.

That fixes many of our countries current ills.

Corporations can't hide their money as effectively.
illegals don't get money unjustly.
Government is more accountable.
A whole, very unnecessary, government entity(IRS) and industry gets substantially excised.
 

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