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Watched part of the 2nd half. Can't remember ever seeing the refs take over a game and bring attention to themselves like they did in this one. It was ridiculous. The most blatant fouls were not called and scores of touch fouls and no-touch fouls were called as well as several obvious make-up calls. Maybe the league should just change the playoffs to a FT shooting contest.
 
I think we need regular season and postseason awards, endorsement deals, and postgame press conferences for officials. Anything to get them in the spotlight. I can't get enough of Joey Crawford staring down players and thumping his finger into coaches' chests. Not sure about anyone else, but that's definitely why I watch the NBA playoffs.
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The absolute best was when Luke Walton shoots a fall-away jumper and they called a foul on Matt Harpring, when he didn't even touch Walton.

Now THAT is the NBA....it's FANTASTIC!!

Seriously, if it wasn't for the Spurs, I wouldn't watch one minute of the NBA. What a joke of a league it is.
 
Playoff officiating has always been bad. When you put the Lakers & Jazz together it is going to UGLY.
 
Yeah, that game was horribly ref'd. I am hoping there is fair ref'in in game 6 (and game 7 if necessary), so that Utah can have a fair chance.

God, I hate the Lakers.
 
If it wasn't for the San Antonio Spurs I wouldn't watch the NBA.

If it wasn't for Vanilla ice cream I wouldn't eat ice cream.
 
I think the officiating in many of these series so far has been inconsistent. They call ticky tack fouls on skill players but not the same for the guys down low. I will just say that it has been inconsistent and that inconsistency has not favored one team or the other in 2 games in a row and definitely not a series. To say that Utah isn't getting a fair chance for example is just inaccurate.
 
The home-court advantage in the 2nd round, IMHO, directly correlates with the terrible offciating. The foul discrepancy between home and away teams is ridiculous. Not that this guaranteed solution, but wouldn't players adjust better to how the series are being called if the same refs reffed the entire series? I don't understand why they have different teams reffing each game. Makes no sense to me!
 
I'm a latecomer to this thread, but Aragorn hit the nail on the head. Joey Crawford and friends know they are the center of attention and the focal point of these games so they ought to have all the press conferences, etc. that the minor participants (players and coaches) have.
 
Yeah, the Kings still had a chance to win game 7 at home and choked it away. That said, that wouldn't have ever happened had they won game 6 on the road, which IMO they probably (can't say for sure) would have without the officials siding with Los Angeles.

I don't remember the whole series well enough to comment on the call patterns changing, but I do remember watching the 2nd half of game 6 and not noticing any overall call pattern outside of the Kings getting hurt by repeated bad calls as well the Lakers getting essentially every single 50/50 call.
 
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It wasn't just bad calls. They fouled floppy Divac out as pay back for fouling Shaq out twice. It was theater, really. That Game 6 was an embarrassment to everyone, including die hard Lakes fans like myself (granted, if the Cavs somehow get into the finals I will have to root for them no matter).

I think in Game 4, with the Kings up at the half, the Lakes put Kobe on Bibby for the second. The refs let Kobe manhandle Bibby. Hand checks and the lot. That is the game that Divac whacked the rebound out into the waiting hands of Horry, who canned the buzzer beater 3 to even the series. Alot of ref help in that game too (first half tick tack, second half was Kobe the mauler).

That series was ******. If they had just let the teams play the Lakes would have won in 6. Instead they got caught up in home court advantages after the Lakes opened with a win on the road. From there they twisted and turned until game 7. Unfortunate, but I think the better team won (in the midst of a 3-peat, so there is some objectivity to the claim).
 
Yes the better team did win and that is the important thing. That was a tricky series to call b/c you had Shaq who is big and physical and is only really great if he can create some space for himself which requires the refs to allow him to do that a bit. How much contact would they allow was the question and being consistent about that has always been a problem with Shaq. I would think it would be hard for him as a player b/c they are never consistent with him. During that 3 peat they let Shaq be Shaq for the most part and he was able to dominate. They did this though by not allowing Divac to flop time after time and get those offensive fouls called. Now a days they seem to call too many offensive fouls like that and I would rather just let them let the guys play a bit.

Main thing though is consistency within a series so that the players can adjust to it. They can call the series one way at home for a team and then completely call it differently when that team goes on the road. They also tend to make many of the questionable calls during momentum shifts. This can change the outcomes of games. Plus as many have said watching FT contests is just boring. That is why I like college basketball and especially the tournament where they allow the guys to just go and play and run up and down the court.
 
college refs go too far the other way. way too many guys drive in or post up and just get crushed without a call. college refs are so afraid of making a game-changing call that they essentially screw the game up through inaction as much as it can be through action. that's how you get a lot of 55-51 games with low shooting percentages, b/c guys are getting killed everywhere. you don't have to call every little handcheck, but the offenses too often are just handcuffed by the officials (plus any time a defender falls down it's called a charge in basketball, no matter what actually happened).

as for lakers/kings, i don't see how game 1 can be considered equal. if game 6 hadn't happened, that would've been the biggest pro-laker game of the series. it was fairly ridiculous. the second half of game 4 with the lakers playing rugby with bibby as mentioned was also bad. kings probably shouldn't have lost a 17 point half time lead (that i think would've been 20 had a samaki walker 40 footer after the buzzer not been counted) but the lakers were hard enough to stop w/o getting every call. and then obviously game 6 was the most one-sided affair in virtually any sport that anybody can remember. granted, game 5 was solidly pro-kings (i think shaq took only 0 or 1 ft's and was fouled out himself) and the kings only won by 1 so maybe that makes up for game 4. game 7 was very evenly reffed and, in fact, i would say nba game 7's are some of the best-reffed basketball games you'll see, college or pro. they always seem to have the perfect mixture of letting them play, not getting key guys in foul trouble, but still staying in control and not letting contact get out of hand. i'm sure these upcoming game 7's will be atrocious now that i said that.

and i don't really think the better team won. even shooting 2-20 on 3's and 15-30 from the line in game 7, the kings forced overtime against the lakers. give them some even refs for games 1, 4, and 6, and i think they take that series before game 7 shows up. i still remember peja having that open 3 at the end of regulation in game 7 and airballing it by about 2 feet to the side of the rim. that was an epic choke on a shot.
 
hoops boards are too full of long threads about how refs screwed one team or another. These threads dominate the boards which takes away from actual basketball discussion and the aesthetics of the game which is why we watch in the first place.

anyway, got a question about the Lakers roster.

Will the Big 3 come back next year? Is Gasol locked down, Odom? for how long?

btw, D. Fisher is one hell of a basketball player and one of the most clutch guys in playoff history.
 
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