It's time to torpedo the NCAA

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Horn_in_Toronto

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I have been following the latest sewage to emerge out of the NCAA, and seriously I think its time to torpedo this crap factory once and for all.

I am really surprised the big football schools have not banded together to explore alternative to the NCAA. Small schools, with very little athletic interests or money involved have far too much power to dictate what the big schools can do.

I wish DeLoss would call a confernece of the top 50 biggest football/athletic programs and get the ball rolling on an alternative to the NCAA.
 
So schools with large alumni and lots of money can run everything their way. Right.

How about removing the fifty top schools from policy making positions so the game becomes a little more competitive and huge state universities like ours are not tempted to drag everybody around on a rope behind our pickups?

We already have way too much say as it is.

MOst schools, including a lot of the top fifty already lose money on this dog and pony show that has evolved largely at the whim of the big schools.

Take a look at how many of our student athletes in football can talk intelligently and then remind me how their interests or the interests of higher education are being served.

In the best of all worlds there would be no athletic scholarships and the students would be playing football on saturdays. You know, the ones with real majors who actually do their own work and get degrees.

The latest travesty at that big football school in Pennsylvania suggests what we have known all along---the tail is wagging the dog way too much.
 
So schools with large alumni and lots of money can run everything their way. Right. Exactly. These are the schools that have the most invested in, and most to lose from some of the more ridiculous rules that the NCAA has made, largely to the benefit of the smaller schools.The more a school has invested in athletics, the larger its voice should be. Texas State may not care about a reduction in football scholarships from 85 to 80 or 75 or lower, but Texas, LSU, Alabama etc should, their football programs would be seriously impacted. Why should the like of Texas State, dictate what Texas et al can do?How about removing the fifty top schools from policy making positions so the game becomes a little more competitive and huge state universities like ours are not tempted to drag everybody around on a rope behind our pickups?

This has to be the most idiotic proposal I have ever heard. So lets leave the must successful schools away from the decision making process, and basically let those schools that envy that success run the show so they may pass rules to make it impossible for the successful schools to continue being successful.
Why should the big schools care about the success or competitiveness of the smaller schools?
Basically in your book, if you are successful, you should be penalized and punished and all that makes you successful taken away. Boy Stalin would have loved you!

Your delusion is truly amazing. What the hell do you mean Texas is dragging around everybody on a rope? My god, just how removed are you from reality?


We already have way too much say as it is.

Oh really? How so? And why is that bad? Success and wealth come with certain advantages, one of which is that your voice will be heard over others, again, I fail to see why that’s a bad thing.

MOst schools, including a lot of the top fifty already lose money on this dog and pony show that has evolved largely at the whim of the big schools.

What a ridiculous argument. If the big schools want to get together, and come up with an alternative to the NCAA, it’s nobody’s business but theirs. Why does it concern you if another school is losing money, but still wants to set up a new system? A system created by the big schools for the big schools will serve them well as opposed to this half baked system of the NCAA.



Take a look at how many of our student athletes in football can talk intelligently and then remind me how their interests or the interests of higher education are being served.

Oh man you really have no clue do you. It’s better to have them in college for a few years, and even if they do not get a degree, its better than having them on the streets to fend for themselves. At least at college they get some kind of an education. A roof over their heads, and 3 square meals a day. I suppose the alternative of leaving out on the streets is what you would prefer.

In the best of all worlds there would be no athletic scholarships and the students would be playing football on saturdays. You know, the ones with real majors who actually do their own work and get degrees.

Okay so no more scholarships. No more opportunities of underprivileged kids to get a chance at an education (or part of an education). No more fund raising opportunities for the universities. Do you realize just how much money the University raises because of athletics? True not all of it goes to academics, but a lot of it does.

The latest travesty at that big football school in Pennsylvania suggests what we have known all along---the tail is wagging the dog way too much.

Fair enough, but ending college athletics as we know it, will not change much. What happened at PSU can and does happen anywhere there are people in power. I suppose you think the Catholic Church should be disbanded to. What happened at PSU has been happening all over the world for centuries, to blame it all on college athletics is ridiculous. Powerful people, regardless of their fields, have misused that power for their own benefit, it’s a sad aspect of human nature.
 
Just to pick a couple of easy rejoinders: underpriveleged kids can go to junior colleges and do well and go on to better universities. I did and so did thousands of others. If by underpriveleged you mean criminals like Ramonce, screw them, they belong in prison, not a major university.

The fact that the big schools have the most invested is the reason why they succeed so often. They buy their way in and then pad their records playing Rice and Sam Houston State or Texas State.

Our University does not enjoy the tradition it has because we are more virtuous or God picked us out to follow on Saturdays. We have more alumni and more money. Period.

Any big school except the Aggies can do it.

Why should the playing field be unlevel just because some schools are rich as Croesus and others aren't? Was it really so bad back when small schools could compete with the big ones?

We want to win every game and stomp the opposition and anything that seems to lead to that happening is ok. But it isn't.
The whole system is out of control and we are one of the reasons why that is so.

And I am sick of all the effing commercials at the games blasted out from that monster in the end zone. Do I really care who is the official depillatory of UT athletics?
 
What I find interesting is your obvious level of disgust with the current version of TEXAS football.....and yet you support it as evidenced by your complaint regarding the Jumbotron.

I'm a fairly liberal guy, but you my friend are so far left of my position I would need binoculars.

If the system and Texas part in it is so awful & corrupt, why would you want to be anywhere near it?

Your position may be valid (though I personally don't agree) but your over-the-top statements discredit that position. (you lost me with the pickup/rope analogy)
 
I could get behind a league where it is separate from the NCAA and we only invite schools that make money from their AD program. We could start paying some of these players for a percentage of what that program brings in and divide it up evenly to all players. Of course, this would only apply to football since that is the largest revenue of most universities.

Off the top of my head, I can think about 30 or so teams that would be able to meet the profit qualifying standard to be in this league. A playoff system must be in the by-laws and they wouldn't be able to play teams outside of the league. Potential great games could come of this since you would play almost half the league in a given year. Have a six team playoff with the top two teams with a bye the first week. Best record has home game for playoff and the championship game would rotate to all participating universities. If you play at home during the year that you go to the championship game, you have to split your seats up for the opposing team.
 
geez: my problem is not with Texas football alone. I 've been a season ticket holder for thirty years but that doesn't mean I find the institution overall to be faultless. AS I pointed out, I would like to see college football go back to being for student athletes and not a bunch of criminals and retards. I've known plenty of people who were real students and good football players. We really don't need all the halfwits and criminals.

Big money is ruining college football, not its savior. Most schools cannot compete with the big ones for that reason alone. Most schools are spending money they should spend on academics on athletic programs that are losing money.

If the situation doesn't get scaled back, you are going to have fifty teams at the very most running everything. How much money will Urban Meyer or Mack Brown be worth then? How much is A&M going to have to pay to get a coach who they think can make them the lions of the game they think they are entitled to? There is no end to how crazy this can all get.
 
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