Is there any realistic path for a Romney Victory?

Nuclear Bear

Nuclear Bear

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I dont see it.

He's behind in almost every state that he needs to be winning.

I dont see any paths for him to 270 electoral votes....and Im pretty sure him and his campaign team know this also.
 
I don't think there is anymore but not because of polling. In 1980, Carter had as big of a lead as Obama has (if not bigger) at this point in the campaign. Furthermore, I've been following politics for about 25 years, and I've almost never seen a poll that didn't exaggerate Democratic strength.

However, Romney had a Clayton Williams moment with that video. When you're caught saying that 47 percent of the electorate are a bunch of lazy-asses with no initiative and that his job is not to give a $hit about them, that should pretty well kill your campaign, especially when many of them are your supporters (old people, veterans, people in the military, the unemployed, etc.). The comment reinforced and gave credibility to everything the Obama campaign and the media have long said about Romney - that he's a jerk, doesn't care about ordinary people, and is out of touch with them. He basically disproved all the good things his wife (whom I think the public generally liked) said about him at the convention.

Furthermore, it's all in Romney's own words, so Obama doesn't have to spin it or take any political risks with it. All he has to do is keep it on people's minds and let it speak for itself. Obama would have to run about the worst campaign in history from this point on to lose this election.
 
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" asked Bluto Blutarsky.

There are the debates, a lot of time and a lot issues to come out that can cause a groundswell of opinion changes when not many people are in love with either candidate.
Maybe the Republicans have someone waiting in the wings that can come out like Bill Clinton and capture the imagination. I am amazed by the respect Clinton is getting from the media and from audiences. It makes me long for leaders like Clinton, Reagan and Kennedy who coudl use real information and real issues to get voters fired up and excited.

Obama seems to be delivering a "hope and change II" a message approximately as exciting as the long awaited Rocky X. Romney's message, so best I can understand it, is economic recovery and tax reform "but I'm sure as hell not gonna tell you what that might look like or how I'm going to get there."

We need something better than the "fact free" campaign Romney and Obama are mounting.
 
You must not be reading the hornfans poll. Because 90% of the posters on this board are certain that President Obama's *** is going to be thrown out of the White House soon.

All joking aside, I haven't seen a way for the GOP to win back the oval office without courting the Hispanic vote. They simply have not done anything to bridge this gap since the last election. Young voters, poor voters, and non white voters are not voting GOP. The last 2 are increasing demographics and they seem to be going backwards.
 
i think the more important question is "Is there any realistic path for an American Victory?" Whichever one wins, we all lose.
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As I have said previously on this BBS, barring an economic meltdown or some foreign policy disaster, Romney has no chance to beat Obama. Republicans can rationalize to themselves why the polls are wrong blah blah blah but all you have to do is get out there in the real world to know which way this is going to go.

The problem, at its core, is that Romney has no true sense of who he really is and people sense that.

Add to that:

1) Romney can't talk about the one thing he did in Massachusetts that was really kind of historic, which was the 2006 Massachusetts health care law. So his one big accomplishment as governor is a non-starter for him.


2) Romney's support even among Republicans is tepid. There is a certain percentage of them who will not vote for him because he is a Mormon. There is a certain percentage of them who will not vote for him because he's too liberal .... from Massachusetts just like John Kerry and Michael Dukakis and the grandfather of Obamacare.

3) He offers no compelling alternative to Obama. The Republicans were never going to win this by nominating Obama lite. Because of this lack of a compelling alternative vision, many will say "why go for the new guy when he's the same guy as the old guy? At least we know who the old guy is."


Barring disaster, he's a dead man.

Perhaps the worst-run campaign I've seen. More politically tone-deaf than Michael Dukakis, which I never thought I would see.
 
It's good that most people know this is a forum with opinion on it. There sure is a lot of ******** posing as "informed" facts flying around here.
 
Certainly there is. It is not even October yet. None of the debates have taken place. And even according to the current polls, for whatever those are worth, the race is still close.
 
If Romney loses, it's because WAY too many people in this country vote based on what that want to hear instead of voting on who's telling the truth.

I might understand someone voting against Romney, but there is no logical reason to vote for Obama. The guy either doesn't know how to improve the economy or doesn't want to.
 
You''re right about Obama not posting a lot of facts, but Romney ain't exactly Abe Lincoln when it comes to telling to truth and being straight with the American people.
 
Romney is a joke as a candidate, but let's not forget the alternatives:

Professor Gingrich
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Sweater Vest
Crazy Eyes Bachmann
Ron Howdy Doody Paul
Gov. Three Departments Goodhair
The Other Mormon
Pothead Johnson

I voted for Paul in the primary and will vote for Johnson in the general election, but IMO Romney is the most competitive option from that crowd. Sad.
 
dheiman -- did you observe Romney's foreign excursion during the Olympics? Notice how great he was at winning friends and influencing people? Think he's gonna make the folks in the Middle East love us more?

Israel, with its West Bank settlements is making things very hard for us there. Building a viable, long-term poosition for ourselves in the Middle East requires us to be firm with our friends as well as our enemies.
 
Not that these early polls are actually predictive of the how the race will turn out on November 6, but:
Gallup Daily Tracking Poll - Obama 47, Romney 47http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx

You would have though that if Mitt Romney had really lost the election after this video broke on Monday, the polls would be widening now, rather than narrowing as they actually are in this poll. (See a graph of the results over the last few months at the link)

And the poll is based on registered voters rather than likely voters, which always skews favorably towards the Democrats.

Obviously, the Obama sycophants in the media and elsewhere who tried to pronounce the race "over" based on Romney's comments in this fundraising video have successfully beclowned themselves, yet again.
 
Yes, the polls aren't predictive of how the race will turn out in November, but I love the way you hone in on the Gallup poll and ignore all the other national and state level polls that have come out this week that do show some separation in the race.

For example:

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Republicans would have a better chance of retaking the WH if they organized a Ryan write-in campaign for POTUS.

And I don't like Ryan and his ideas, but he is truer to his conservative convictions than Romney.

I am serious.
 
The critical senate races, which are polled by state-level organizations, are mostly trending R. I'm taking my cues on the overall direction of the Presidential race from how these senate races are trending. I still believe Romney wins.
 
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