Is maxine Waters calling Obama a racist
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BrothaHorn
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I agree fully with the President, just not in the way he meant. Stop complaining and fight for a better way of life. Not a better government program. The sheep that follow the progressive wolves will never breakout, as long as they are waiting on government solutions.
As for Waters, and her ilk, she should STFU. 21 members have been in office for 15 years. Yet, now they want something done, only because the younger generation is starting to become disenchanted. What can Obama do in 3 years? That they haven't been able to do in 15 years? The man is not a miracle worker, just a snake oil salesman.
But, O gets little sympathy from me. Because, we all know, if he was in the Senate or back in Chi-town, he would be crying/complaining too.
As for Waters, and her ilk, she should STFU. 21 members have been in office for 15 years. Yet, now they want something done, only because the younger generation is starting to become disenchanted. What can Obama do in 3 years? That they haven't been able to do in 15 years? The man is not a miracle worker, just a snake oil salesman.
But, O gets little sympathy from me. Because, we all know, if he was in the Senate or back in Chi-town, he would be crying/complaining too.
BrothaHorn
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I know and respect Emanuel Cleaver but since the CBC didn't march or the previous president, I find his assertion to be nothing short of silly. Based on the reaction of some who obviously believe the Willie Lynch syndrome to by largely myth, the President labors under the misapprehension that he was "at home" and could speak freely. Barbara Lee suggests the media is taking snippets from a 45 minute speech to build a narrative that supports the vision of internecine squabbles between the President and his black base.
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Do the republicans think Obama is a true american
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Obama, like all presidents during my lifetime, has made many terrible mistakes, mishaps, miscalculations and blunders. He is a law school graduate with very little industry, business or real world experience. He is essentially the left wing version of having someone like Palin in office.
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Obama, like all presidents during my lifetime, has made many terrible mistakes, mishaps, miscalculations and blunders. He is a law school graduate with very little industry, business or real world experience. He is essentially the left wing version of having someone like Palin in office.
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"Barbara Lee suggests the media is taking snippets from a 45 minute speech to build a narrative that supports the vision of internecine squabbles between the President and his black base. "
uh Maxine Waters was at the CBC meeting so she heard the entire spiel and didn't rely on the media.
"Barbara Lee suggests the media is taking snippets from a 45 minute speech to build a narrative that supports the vision of internecine squabbles between the President and his black base. "
uh Maxine Waters was at the CBC meeting so she heard the entire spiel and didn't rely on the media.
The reason Obama reaches out to Hispanics, gays, and Jews is that it's worth his time to do so. It's not worth his time to reach out to blacks. In a way it's sad. The black community has never had stronger political rights than it has today, but it's less relevant than it has been in 100 years, because it predictably votes as a bloc in every election. That can help a group in the short term, but it hurts if it becomes too predictable.
The Republicans don't care what they think or want because they can never attract their votes. The Democrats don't care what they think or want because they can never lose their votes. All they have to do is pretend that they care, and that's good enough. (Basically, public hostility to white people coupled with some lip service is enough. Actual results don't matter. If they did, people like Waters or Sheila Jackson-Lee couldn't get elected.)
By contrast, the Weiner open seat election proves that the Jewish vote is winnable by both parties. The Hispanic vote has proven over the last three election that it can also lean one way or the other and can be pivotal in many states. The gays lean Democratic, but many are fiscal conservatives. (In fact, most gays that I know are indifferent on the "marriage" issue and hard right on tax and spending issues.) Knowing that the Hispanic, Jewish, and gay votes are up for grabs, it's a much better use of Obama's time and political resources to reach out to them. Any kind of substantial work done to lure black votes is a waste of time for him.
The Republicans don't care what they think or want because they can never attract their votes. The Democrats don't care what they think or want because they can never lose their votes. All they have to do is pretend that they care, and that's good enough. (Basically, public hostility to white people coupled with some lip service is enough. Actual results don't matter. If they did, people like Waters or Sheila Jackson-Lee couldn't get elected.)
By contrast, the Weiner open seat election proves that the Jewish vote is winnable by both parties. The Hispanic vote has proven over the last three election that it can also lean one way or the other and can be pivotal in many states. The gays lean Democratic, but many are fiscal conservatives. (In fact, most gays that I know are indifferent on the "marriage" issue and hard right on tax and spending issues.) Knowing that the Hispanic, Jewish, and gay votes are up for grabs, it's a much better use of Obama's time and political resources to reach out to them. Any kind of substantial work done to lure black votes is a waste of time for him.
mr Deez
You make sense and I think that is sad for most black people. They do vote as a bloc but more of them than not want what many others want, opportunity and a fair shake.
There are some black so called leaders who have spent their careers preaching that blacks are Owed.A percentage of people buy into that and expect things to be given.
There are other black leaders who call for personal responsibility and who through example show what can be done. I hope and think their message is believed by more people that the ones who believe the jesse jacksons and al sharptons of the world.
The discord within the black community is not a lot different than the discord within the GOP. Discord isn't all that bad.
i see it made obama testy though. A trifle thin skinned.
You make sense and I think that is sad for most black people. They do vote as a bloc but more of them than not want what many others want, opportunity and a fair shake.
There are some black so called leaders who have spent their careers preaching that blacks are Owed.A percentage of people buy into that and expect things to be given.
There are other black leaders who call for personal responsibility and who through example show what can be done. I hope and think their message is believed by more people that the ones who believe the jesse jacksons and al sharptons of the world.
The discord within the black community is not a lot different than the discord within the GOP. Discord isn't all that bad.
i see it made obama testy though. A trifle thin skinned.
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BrothaHorn
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Brotha
It is interesting that people could see the Obama story and call it wonderful but put down the Herman Cain story and call him an oreo.
One is the story of someone who achieved through a collective nature and the other is a story of someone who achieved through his will and confidence.
Both have a place I think. that is why it is sad to see people including many on WM denigrate Cain.
It says a lot more about them than it does Cain.
It is interesting that people could see the Obama story and call it wonderful but put down the Herman Cain story and call him an oreo.
One is the story of someone who achieved through a collective nature and the other is a story of someone who achieved through his will and confidence.
Both have a place I think. that is why it is sad to see people including many on WM denigrate Cain.
It says a lot more about them than it does Cain.
A couple of things Mr. Deez:
People like you who consider themselves informed critics of the black experience (hilariously because you studied us in Church) should take a minute to consider why we left and remain voluntarily separated from the Republican party. Here's a hint: It wasn't because we like government cheese. It was in part because we have sense enough to recognize when a political party advances interests that are inimical to our own.
What I find most amusing about your patronizing pedantry is your offensive certitude about what you think you know about us.
People like you who consider themselves informed critics of the black experience (hilariously because you studied us in Church) should take a minute to consider why we left and remain voluntarily separated from the Republican party. Here's a hint: It wasn't because we like government cheese. It was in part because we have sense enough to recognize when a political party advances interests that are inimical to our own.
What I find most amusing about your patronizing pedantry is your offensive certitude about what you think you know about us.
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