Introducing Dallas University (f/k/a SMU)

I like what Dykes and Shane are doing at SMU, and I’m rooting for their success. I wouldn’t mind putting them on the schedule sometime. That being said, for me there’s way too much nasty and harmful history in that program to be in the same conference as UT again. Maybe in another generation or so, but so many of us still remember the damage they caused to college football in this state.

Cheering them on and wanting to play them on occasion—that’s one thing. Bringing them into the conference is a completely different issue.
 
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I'm not saying that SMU will or won't ever get an invite, but looking at their academic improvement since the death penalty, it might give them a chance. If they were admitted, they would be the second highest ranked school academically in the Big XII, or the fourth rated in the SEC.
 
For me personally,

Like them, and want them back: Rice

Don't like them, but want them back anyway: Arkansas, UH

Like them, but don't want them back: SMU

Definitely don't want them back: aTm
 
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Not only are they playing good football nowadays, they also know how to party.

SMU ranked the Best Nightlife school:

‘Playboy’ Honors SMU, UT, and TCU

Coming out on top, albeit in a side-category, was Southern Methodist University, which apparently has the “Best Nightlife.” Tired of solo (sic) cups of warm beer? At SMU, Dallas is your never-ending house party. The number of bars within Dallas County: around 2,000, including Idle Rich Pub, the campus hot spot that best describes the student body. :yes::beertoast::yes:

The feature also quotes International Studies student Colton Moyer, class of 2014. “The bar scene at SMU definitely dominates,” he said. “Everyone is all about going to the bar and balling out.”
 
A couple of thoughts:
1. SMU academically: #4 in SEC? Vanderbilt... who else?
2. Perhaps not popular, but I would love to have aggy back in our conference. Would love it if we played them every year. They are obviously on our minds - witness the aggy thread. We talk smack, they talk smack. Why would we not want the opportunity to put them in their place, every year? And, derision aside, did we not always consider them a measuring stick? I think a game with a detested rival adds to the fun of the season.
 
I think if Sonny can stick around and keep piling up the 10-win seasons, SMU will reno that HS stadium off Mockingbird, close in the end zone, and finally get more than about 7K people to cheer (and get loud when the team is on D instead of O for once).

And I say this as someone who married a Mustang and has season tickets. The atmosphere is pitiful and the prices of everything have doubled in the past couple seasons.

SMU needs to go the "KSU" route for improvement. Keep picking off transfers here, there, and everywhere, especially from high-powered FCS schools and from the portal. Once they show that they can regularly beat the snot out of lesser teams and hang with Power-5 teams, then their own fanbase will take them seriously. The football IQ is so damn low in Ford Stadium that I find myself explaining what "holding" is to the geriatric HP rich dolts who sit near me.
 
Horns11 said:
I think if Sonny can stick around and keep piling up the 10-win seasons, SMU will reno that HS stadium off Mockingbird, close in the end zone, and finally get more than about 7K people to cheer (and get loud when the team is on D instead of O for once).

And I say this as someone who married a Mustang and has season tickets. The atmosphere is pitiful and the prices of everything have doubled in the past couple seasons.

SMU needs to go the "KSU" route for improvement. Keep picking off transfers here, there, and everywhere, especially from high-powered FCS schools and from the portal. Once they show that they can regularly beat the snot out of lesser teams and hang with Power-5 teams, then their own fanbase will take them seriously. The football IQ is so damn low in Ford Stadium that I find myself explaining what "holding" is to the geriatric HP rich dolts who sit near me.
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They're clearly doing some things right these days on the hilltop (do they still say that?). I really like both Shane and Dykes.

A few suggestions for our Park Cities' pals: keep improving Ford Stadium as you noted, but play 1-2 home games per year in the Cotton Bowl and promote the heck out of those games--sell $5 tickets to kids and families at local DISD schools and surrounding communities' schools, sell $3 tickets to Fair Park residents, promote them on tv and the radio, push them on Dallas city employees, charity people, etc. That's the outreach to the Dallas community. And above all--keep wearing those stylish "Dallas" uniforms.
 
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Chop,

Playing in Fair Park is a horrible idea. None of the people that attend games at Ford would drive to Fair Park for a day game, much less at night.

Night games at Fair Park are an open invitation for gang warfare.

SMU would do much better to revise the old TCU program of having the Dallas/Collin County Auto Dealers Association tickets to give away.

Your idea of free tickets to local schools is good, but they will get a lot more mileage out of Plano, Frisco, South Lake, et al.
 
SabreHorn said:
Chop,

Playing in Fair Park is a horrible idea. None of the people that attend games at Ford would drive to Fair Park for a day game, much less at night.

Night games at Fair Park are an open invitation for gang warfare.

SMU would do much better to revise the old TCU program of having the Dallas/Collin County Auto Dealers Association tickets to give away.

Your idea of free tickets to local schools is good, but they will get a lot more mileage out of Plano, Frisco, South Lake, et al.
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Yeah I get that, and you’re probably right. But if they really do want to do local outreach and become Dallas’ team, that means all of Dallas. Maybe that’s not what they really want after all, and the new SMU is the same as the old SMU, and anything to the contrary is mere lip service. Could be...

Re: Fair Park—we play OU there every year, and I’ve been to a number of Summer musicals there. It’s not the Park Cities, but it’s not the South Bronx—at least not right by the Cotton Bowl.
 
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Doing football camps at Fairpark might have more appeal. Daytime, access to South Dallas, aim to cater to/hire local coaches to help.

I wish Herman did that.
 
SabreHorn said:
Chop,

Playing in Fair Park is a horrible idea. None of the people that attend games at Ford would drive to Fair Park for a day game, much less at night.

Night games at Fair Park are an open invitation for gang warfare.

SMU would do much better to revise the old TCU program of having the Dallas/Collin County Auto Dealers Association tickets to give away.

Your idea of free tickets to local schools is good, but they will get a lot more mileage out of Plano, Frisco, South Lake, et al.
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Why would the gangs fight whilst flailing those flags attempting to get you to park in their yard?
 
zuckercanyon said:
Why would the gangs fight whilst flailing those flags attempting to get you to park in their yard?
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so when my son was in high school, he and his friend took DART down to the fair park pavilion to see a concert, but DART stopped before they could get to it, so i drove down to pick them up.

besides the east side reeking of sticky icky, there were multple gun shots as i drove around the back side of the park where the pavilion is. night time is not good unless the fair is open.
 
You know SMU has played their home games in the Cotton Bowl before. Of course, that stadium could use a bit of work (as in a very large bit of work).
 
The not-so-secret secret about SMU extracurricular activities is that the frats/sororities and Pan-Hellenic command 50 percent of the students what to do with their time. Not their free time... all of their time. So if they've rented out a party barge on Lake Ray Hubbard for Saturday night, and the charter bus leaves at 5, then no one is staying for the 2nd half of a 2:30 kickoff. It would be the equivalent of like 25K Texas fans just up and leaving (which seems plausible given our recent flaws).

It got a lot better for basketball because of the excitement generated by Larry Brown, but some of that was hinged on cheating and Moody doesn't seat many people. And basketball games can be on Monday nights and not Saturdays.

There's not a chance in hell the frats and sororities want to go back to the 70s with their Cotton Bowl & Texas Stadium shuttles. Let's just say enforcement wouldn't be as much of a problem today. Plus, the Boulevard is like the only thing most of them clean their khakis for each week. I think having higher expectations at the beginning of a season (and nabbing Preston Stone) would endear the program a bit more to the students and then it would rub off on the masses.
 
1-2 home games a year at the Cotton Bowl. So 5-6 home games at Ford (the small on-campus stadium).
 
Chop said:
1-2 home games a year at the Cotton Bowl. So 5-6 home games at Ford (the small on-campus stadium).
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10-15k a game at either place isn't going to cut it. They might actually be better off in football as an independent - don't get folded in as something less than Power 5 plus play the Domers and BYU every year. Every other year versus ND in the Cotton Bowl would generate interest.
 
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