Immigration

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Immigrants, be they red, yellow, black, brown or white are not bad because of their skin color and generally they are not bad as individuals. It is the volume and they lack of proper integration and assimilation that is the problem for me. I would like to see an immigration plan with these key points:

1. Illegal Immigration, no matter the age, or underlying reason is never accepted
2. Employers are punished when they knowingly hire, or fail to take appropriate employee screening measures to ensure the new hire is a citizen
3. legal immigration is tied to a rolling average for unemployment and wages
*** I believe we should have an inverse relationship with immigration and wages. If real wages are up averaging above $8.50 then we should increase the allowed immigration number and if real wages dip below $8 then we should curtail immigration inflows. We could base it on a rolling 5 year average or something of that nature.
4. 80% of immigration inflow is based on the employment needs of existing enterprises and about 20% is based on well documented humanitarian needs.

I don't give a dang about a wall because I think it is a boondoggle for some government contractor. I don't think you can build a wall sufficient enough to stop illegal immigration as long as there remains a significant draw in terms of subsidized healthcare, education and higher paying jobs.
 
Some great points. Tying stopping illegal immigration to ethnicity or skin color is how libs demonize anyone who thinks it should be stopped.

It is interesting that during an interview or on the application forms you can ask if a person is legally authorised to work in USA but you can not ask for proof until you have hired someone. Only then can you verify they are legal.
Not surprising people will lie about their legal status even when they think you will verify later.
Point 3 seems like a good idea that could help protect entry level and unskilled
workers.
 
Here is one small idea -- Offer asylum to ethnic German and Swedish citizens. It's a bit of a troll job but, in the end, it might help those two countries and, at the same time, end the current madness infecting the rest of Europe. How? By threatening to steal Germany and Sweden's top human capital, then their governments will have little choice but to rectify their current self-destructive immigration policies.
 
JF
Kerry has told Australia We will take their refugees they do not want
Maybe we can make a deal with Angela. We take Germans who are against her flooding their country and she can take more the un vetted refugees in Australia
We DO NOT need any more of these unknown refugees
What does it cost us just to get them here? 75k
Then we pay for them to live . Trump can not take office soon enough for this situation
 
Oh, and one last requisite for the policy...

There is no birth right citizenship unless at least one of your parents is already a citizen.

Let's end this practice of making the children born here citizens even though the parents are here illegally....and then later using the children's citizenship as justification to make the parents citizens...."so we don't tear apart families".

These would be the same parents/families that knowingly came to a country they had no legal right to be in, and knowingly put their families in this position. Now we are supposed to cover for their reckless actions by waiving all the rules.

Please, please, please....let's make policy changes that are deeper than "more walls" and "more deportations". That action is superficial and will be turned right back around so easily when democrats eventually gain the White House again.
 
Watch out BOST
That kind of talk, pointing out it is the illegal parents who caused this and for Pete's sake do not ask why the parent would not take the child with them when deported back to their legal country,That kind of talk will get you labeled heartless and unchristian
 
Here is one small idea -- Offer asylum to ethnic German and Swedish citizens. It's a bit of a troll job but, in the end, it might help those two countries and, at the same time, end the current madness infecting the rest of Europe. How? By threatening to steal Germany and Sweden's top human capital, then their governments will have little choice but to rectify their current self-destructive immigration policies.

Let's bring in a bunch of white nationalists! ;)
 
Offer asylum to ethnic German and Swedish citizens

Prior to good old Teddy Kennedy's immigration reform act in the mid sixties, that pretty much was our immigration policy. Almost all our immigrants prior to that were European. Teddy made it so that now almost all our immigrants are non-European and non-white.

Region 2013 2014
Asia 400,548 430,508
Americas 396,605 398,069
Africa 98,304 98,413
Europe 86,556 83,266
Australia and
Oceania 5,277 5,122
Unknown 3,263 1,150
Total 990,553 1,016,518

This of course is LEGAL immigration. Those numbers become really skewed when you factor in illegal immigration.
 
Watch out BOST
That kind of talk, pointing out it is the illegal parents who caused this and for Pete's sake do not ask why the parent would not take the child with them when deported back to their legal country,That kind of talk will get you labeled heartless and unchristian

If that's how you frame the issue, then that discussion went miles over your head.

:rolleyes1:
 
You dont really get how this stuff works, do you?

na·tion·al·ism
noun
  1. patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
    synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
    "their extreme nationalism was frightening"
    • an extreme form of this, especially marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries.
      plural noun: nationalisms
    • advocacy of political independence for a particular country.
I can't move to another nation and practice nationalism there? Or even support nationalism for one country from a different country?
 

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