I don't like this team

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Wulaw Horn

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At all.

I know that may sound harsh, but I've felt that way for some time (probably the stink bomb against OU).

I have rarely during Barnes tenure felt that this team doesn't get the most out of its talent. This team isn't even close to doing that.

Really frustrating. I'm looking forward to next year already, with over half the big 12 schedule to play.
 
Frankly you're not going to like this, but I've watched my team and yours several times, and I think mine could beat yours right now. UT's bigger than us, but your guards are not very good and ours are very good at creating turnovers. The UT team I saw today would have trouble getting out of Devaney Sports Center with a win.
 
I dont think anyone will disagree with you there. You see what happens when our scorers play flat & uninspired. K state came out with a great gameplan of pressuring the ball and upping the tempo and it gave us fits. Plus they shot lights out from 3.
 
No personality to this team. Very intermittent 'fire' and when
it comes it comes from just one, maybe two, guys. This team
stands around, waiting for someone else to work the ball.
As much as I don't want to fault Barnes, he needs to decide
who the hell can play and let them get in the groove. He subs
as often as a Quiznos at lunchtime.
 
Either our recruiting the last few years has been vastly overrated ot it is being highly mismanaged. Either way it is a failure at the very top.
 
HuskerNKingwood - saying your team could beat Texas after we just lost to K State at home is not really earth-shattering information. I don't think you will find anyone here that is going to disagree with that statement.
 
The most alarming thing to me is the way that James, Mason and Atchley have regressed. But, as mentioned, the point guard thing may apply.
 
Six weeks ago there were plenty of UT fans that were optimistic about this team. Now it seems that far fewer feel good about our chances to do well in the Big-12 and NCAA tournaments. But honestly, this team is still good---it's just been overrated all season. Unfortuately, the team seems to be regressing the deeper they advance into their schedule.
 
{half of me agrees completely with most of you...}

Mason, Atchley & James have regressed.
No one can play the point.
No one can create their own shot.
AJ - our best pure shooter - was 5/21 today before he fouled out.
Pittman moves like he's wearing skis, Chapman plays as soft as he looks, and you just don't need 3 "glue guys" (Mason, Ward & Balbay).



{...the other half of me is tapping the brakes.}

We're just outside of the Top 10 before this loss and still boast a 15-5 / 4-2 record with a respectable SOS.
Nice road wins at Baylor, Wisconsin and Villanova are still on the resume.
We win this game if Clemente doesn't go 6-6 from 3, and 12-12 from the line, and a record 44 points.
Helluva comeback today!! It's nice to know that we can erase a 17-point 2nd half deficit should we ever find ourselves there again.
Overwhelming feeling that we still haven't put it together yet.



I'm pissed as Hell we lost today - especially given the comeback - but I'm not just ready to flush this team.
 
Yes, the lost sucks... but these knee jerk reactions are just...
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the team lost a couple and you're ready to flush them down the toilet?
 
Once DJ left, this became a transition year.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), this team beat UCLA which itself is in a transition year and expectations became raised. And then we went and beat Villanova. Truth is the team was never that good.

I see this team performing where I expected more or less once in conference. Not being able to compete in Norman, and struggling with everyone else played.

There is no gifted offensive player on this roster and Barnes' fatal flaw is not being able to design an effective offense without NBA level talent on the floor. And it's all coming to pass this year.

This year's team is more representative of Barnes' first few teams than the recent teams due to recruiting decisions over the past two years.

I'll enjoy this year as a building stone to next years top 5 team and another beast in 2011 and 2012.

This team will be lucky to make the Sweet 16, but that's okay. You can't have a top 8 team every year.
 
No thanks to the players who've left Barnes to start from scratch every year.
 
Should I post the stat again which shows that in our losses it is Abrams shooting horribly that has largely contributed to those losses? He shoots well and Texas wins and this whole discussion is probably mute.....well until he shoots bad again and Texas losses to some other team.


I agree. This is my least favorite team in a long time. We have been lucky with good scorers in the past. But even then there were always guys who continued to step up late in their careers. Where is Mason's development? Where is Atchley's development?

I say play the young guys and Pittman more.
 
I can't support the notion that one "doesn't like this team." I can understand a statement that one isn't impressed with this team, or is disappointed with this team. But what's not to like? They wear the Texas uniform, they have a lot of heart, they fought back late yesterday to force OT. I understand being disheartened. I think things just conspired to set up falsely high expectations. AP voters looked that we returned 4 starters and slotted us, what 10th preseason? Then we go and beat UCLA, Wisconsin on the road, and Villanova. Everyone looked at it like we are right with our last year's team. We weren't then, and we aren't there now. The three OOC wins were all against teams also in subtle rebuilding mode. Augustin wasn't just a 5th starter, he made us go on the offensive end. Now, without him, Texas is exactly the same as a OU team under Samson. We play hard, we rebound, we defend. We just will struggle to score in the half court. Again, let's get 6 more wins in conference, take maybe a 6-7 seed into the Big Dance and look towards next year after an early exit. We aren't what we thought we were. That is our fault not their's, and nothing to dislike about the team.
 
The SOS which looked stellar at the beginning of the year, is just above average at this point. Notre Dame has tanked. UCLA is not that great. Wisconsin and Arkansas are really not good. Villanova is also falling (although they had a nice win against Pitt). Mich St is the only team that has been worth a ****. All the wins and good losses that we were optimistic about earlier have just not been there. It masked what this team truly is - a team that should be ranked 20-30 and will be out in the 2nd round. With all the success of the program, this is disappointing. But we should be lucky that we have gotten to the point that this is disappointing and wait for the reinforcements next year.
 
We have no point guard. Let alone, the best point guard in the country. That kind of player makes everyone look better. I'm convinced much of Connor's success was D.J.'s ability to get the ball into him.

Hard to achieve team continuity when players come and go. Barnes has recruited some great players, but they've never all been here at the same time. He's constantly had to go back to the drawing board and regroup, retool every year. However, a good point guard can compensate for so many other deficiencies. It's no coincidence that we've advanced farthest in the NCAA tourney when we had a top notch point guard.

But as to the original poster's contention that he doesn't like this team, I agree....hard to watch, even harder to like.
 
People contributing to this thread should go check conference team stats.

3 pt %

All games

10. (tie) CU, A&M .347
12. Texas .313

Conference games only

11. ISU .311
12. Texas .250

Texas's outside shooting is so much worse than even the next worst team's that it's laughable. Well, it would be, if we could laugh about such things.

To make things look even worse, Texas went 4-17 against a team that had previously allowed opponents to shoot OVER 50% behind the arc. Yep, KSU had allowed 48-94 before yesterday.

Another way to look at it-Texas's conference opponents have allowed 248 3-pt fg in 633 attempts in all their other conference games. When they aren't playing Texas, OU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, A&M, and Tech allow opponents to shoot 3 pointers at 39.2%. Texas hits only 25% against them.

For every 3.1 3-pointers an average team makes in 8 tries, Texas only makes two.

That's just astoundingly bad.
 
Indy (I think it was)

I love this team b/c they are horns, nice guys, and not criminals so of course I support them.

When I say I don't like this team I mean that it isn't fun to watch them, they let me down with their seriously uneven play and at times lack of effort. It's the converse of me saying I really like Roy Williams teams, or really like Josh Carter's game or that I liked watching KU last year with all that talent etc. I'm not rooting for any of those guys but it's astetically pleasing and entertaining to watch. I don't have that at all with this team.

I guess the thing about it is that I expect Rick Barnes teams to get better and this team (and many individual players) seems to be getting worse.

I'm not calling for him to leave like another poster above, but it'd be nice if he brought in an offensive coordinator (I know, no such position exists in hoops) to design and implement a rational offense that can function without an all american pg.

I am really excited about the guys we have coming in next year. I'm sure we will be really freaking good. But i thought this team could be good, in a down year for college hoops, and it just isn't.

It's almost like our hoops and football team switched for me this year. I've felt this way about many football teams but this years team was just a pleasure to watch and the hoops squad makes you want to pull your hair out.

At least baseball got off to an awesome start with the DWI.
 
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