HS football finance $: a big loser

orangecat1

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for those of you who haven't seen this: the real interesting thing to me is how a traditionally unsuccessful district like my district, McKinney, can spend so much money. Our athletic department is spending money like we're Southlake Carroll.

If you figure the $ spent per victory, we are almost certainly the biggest spenders in DFW. 60k per victory, ouch!!! (estimate avg. 5 wins per season
X 60k = 300k)

So, what is the difference in spending? Example, other districts with similar numbers of High schools, such as CFB and Richardson, spend significantly less per school. Dallas ISD is the king of tightwads, spending 120k per school per year compared to our 300k per year per school.

Transportation, we use yellow dogs for district games, that's frugal. We have artificial turf that I am almost positive was purchased with bond money, so 0 maintenance cost.

Stipends, number of coaches on stipends, I would think that would be about the same, no matter where you are?

Maybe we pay our game officials, PA announcer, radio package, etc. far more than other districts. I would imagine the typical HS home team pays about 25 people, (8-10 coaches, 2 trainers, 6 officials, chain gang, PA announcer, security, medical personel).

Maybe CFB and Richardson don't have a radio package to pay for?

Maybe we have the most expensive, sophisticated football shoulder pads in
HS football history?
 
I've heard the figures, Val, but you guys are much better shape than we are, because you are paying for your stadium with bond money. Our bond indebtedness in McKinney is at the state maximum, .50. Your bond indebtedness in Allen might go up to close to .50, but you will have a $60 million stadium and a state of the art fine arts facility to show for it.

We have nothing new in McKinney, except for a newish pressbox, maybe 4-5 years old.

On the subject of Allen, it will be interesting to see what the AISD does with the concessions for the stadium. Comparing to other stadiums in the area, for example the Frisco baseball park has 20something points of sale, but many of these involve alcohol. The Frisco park seats only 12,000 or so. There are at least 3 stands in Frisco that sell a tremendous amount of food. I know because I cooked last summer in one. We sold more hamburgers than I would guess, and of course plenty of hot dogs and brats. French fries were a huge favorite, which boggles the mind, because it was 108 degrees and were selling hot fresh french fries as fast as I could cook them.

So, let's imagine Allen hires a company to install professional grade concession stands, and hires a consultant to supervise the stands. I'm guessing with 18,000 capacity and no alcohol, you will still need at least 4 concession stands, maybe up to 6.

Imagine that the Allen band were to get the concessions. With 500+ band members, that means you have about 1000+ parents to pull from. You're gonna need 12-15 worker bees at each stand, so let's go with 15 X 6 = 90 parents per game. If my experience in Frisco was any indication, parents are gonna need to get there ready to work their *** off by 5:45 for a 7:00 game, but only have to work that hard for about 2 hours. You should get another slight rush at halftime, so after about 9:00 the business should ease up.

Here's the good news. If this were to work this way, and Allen gets about 5 playoff games per year, whoever gets the concessions is gonna make big $.

I would guess $1 per person spent, except for the bands drill teams, cheerleaders. Round it down to 17k.

Profit is unclear, because the parent labor is free. Food cost should be no more than 50% at the absolute max, so depending upon how the district
calculates, let's say the district gives the band 25% of the gross as profit.
17k X .25 = $4250.

Round that down to make the math easier, 4k X 5 home games. For playoff games, cut that number in half, because you're not gonna sell out a game between Celina and whatever poor team gets in their way.

5 playoff games X 2k. So, we have 5 home games = 20k + 10k from playoff games = 30k. pretty impressive amount.
 

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