How To Beat Baylor

flash34

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Ok kids, now is your chance (BEFORE the game) to suggest to Coach Aston how to beat the Bears in game two in Wakko. Seems we all are good second guessers………we can see what is NOT working……………so let’s see what you have IF you were the coach for a day. I like the goals of minimizing turnovers and fouls, shoot better, defend better, score more points, give up fewer points, don’t talk back to refs, get better refs, slow down, don’t throw the ball into the low post from a bad angle or long distance, make good decisions with the ball on the fast break, keep the crowd out of the game, etc. However, I would argue that those do not make up a strategy. Those points are all good; however, they are more hopes and prayers and requests……………but not specific enough to help much.

The Bears have beaten the Horns for the last 12 times. So the old adage that if you continue to do the same thing over and over……….expect the same results. So here is your chance to show your mettle. What changes would YOU do given the opportunity? To demonstrate that I am willing to expose my lack of good brain cells to the masses, here is what I would do:

Strategy: Give anybody on the Bears an opportunity to be a hero…..EXCEPT Jones and Davis. Can’t expect to win with them going for 29 and 24 again. So how do you do that?
  • Options:
  • Play zone the majority of the game. This minimizes the pick and roll which they torched us with in the first game. They can still do some pick and roll against a zone, but it is different in how you play it versus man to man. This goes against Coach’s DNA but you can’t be bull-headed about it when you have not been able to stop it. This keeps you out of foul trouble early trying to defend the pick and roll.
    • An option off the traditional 2-1-2 or 1-3-1 would be a box and one …………..or perhaps a diamond and one. The “one” dogs Jones with the other 4 playing zone. Since Coach hasn’t played a lot of zone, perhaps this is a stretch to see them do this effective; however, it works well at times against a team with one dominant player (Jones).
  • Play better help side defense. If Coach refuses to deviate from her man to man preference, AND simply must go over the top of the screener, then your help side wing absolutely MUST slide over to help the post hedging hard. ….and still try to get back to keep Wallace or Davis from routinely hitting 3’s. The reason is that Imani and Lang at their size simply are too slow at the hedge to stop Jones on the pick and roll. Our help side defense was not very good in the first game. Also consider having the guard going “under the screener” at times. I don’t like normally going under the screener, but if you change it up some, you may force some indecision and consistency from Jones at time. We simply can’t let Jones go unimpeded down the middle of our defense on the pick and roll.

  • Keep your rotation short. You simply don’t have the difference makers to win when you are playing your number 10-13 player on the roster. All the players are good but all are NOT good enough to beat Baylor. Go with 8 or 9 player rotation (see option one to keep em out of foul trouble!)

  • Play some zone press to slow down their offense. You can alternate with a trapping 1-3-1 or even a soft one to just slow them down. And every so often perhaps get a turnover or two. As a minimum, put the press on when made free throws. Also play some half court trapping zone press as a change of pace.

  • Play Imani at the elbow(s) the majority of the time. Baylor will double and triple team her at the low post almost every time. Imani usually is tall enough to pass to the cutter on the low post, but Baylor is tall enough to stuff that. So she plays high post and use Lang and Taylor at the low post as passing options. I realize that this takes Imani out of an area that is her strength. However, she had 7 turnovers from bad passes or traveling on the block. She can go down there periodically but most times have out high. She can hit that shot (or longer).
Feel free to pass on to Staff Aston for due consideration……….or better yet trash.

So that is it for me. What have you got ?

 
Honestly I would keep the strategy much of the same. BU did some amazing things to win that game that I quite frankly don't see them repeating. One thing in particular I would keep the same is how they played Niya, she's the engine that makes them go. Minimize her impact and force other people to make the plays.

With Bre Taylor playing and allowing everyone to slip to their normal roles and positions will be a significant enough change.
 
Ok kids, now is your chance (BEFORE the game) to suggest to Coach Aston how to beat the Bears in game two in Wakko. Seems we all are good second guessers………we can see what is NOT working……………so let’s see what you have IF you were the coach for a day. I like the goals of minimizing turnovers and fouls, shoot better, defend better, score more points, give up fewer points, don’t talk back to refs, get better refs, slow down, don’t throw the ball into the low post from a bad angle or long distance, make good decisions with the ball on the fast break, keep the crowd out of the game, etc. However, I would argue that those do not make up a strategy. Those points are all good; however, they are more hopes and prayers and requests……………but not specific enough to help much.

The Bears have beaten the Horns for the last 12 times. So the old adage that if you continue to do the same thing over and over……….expect the same results. So here is your chance to show your mettle. What changes would YOU do given the opportunity? To demonstrate that I am willing to expose my lack of good brain cells to the masses, here is what I would do:

Strategy: Give anybody on the Bears an opportunity to be a hero…..EXCEPT Jones and Davis. Can’t expect to win with them going for 29 and 24 again. So how do you do that?



    • Options:
    • Play zone the majority of the game. This minimizes the pick and roll which they torched us with in the first game. They can still do some pick and roll against a zone, but it is different in how you play it versus man to man. This goes against Coach’s DNA but you can’t be bull-headed about it when you have not been able to stop it. This keeps you out of foul trouble early trying to defend the pick and roll.
      • An option off the traditional 2-1-2 or 1-3-1 would be a box and one …………..or perhaps a diamond and one. The “one” dogs Jones with the other 4 playing zone. Since Coach hasn’t played a lot of zone, perhaps this is a stretch to see them do this effective; however, it works well at times against a team with one dominant player (Jones).
    • Play better help side defense. If Coach refuses to deviate from her man to man preference, AND simply must go over the top of the screener, then your help side wing absolutely MUST slide over to help the post hedging hard. ….and still try to get back to keep Wallace or Davis from routinely hitting 3’s. The reason is that Imani and Lang at their size simply are too slow at the hedge to stop Jones on the pick and roll. Our help side defense was not very good in the first game. Also consider having the guard going “under the screener” at times. I don’t like normally going under the screener, but if you change it up some, you may force some indecision and consistency from Jones at time. We simply can’t let Jones go unimpeded down the middle of our defense on the pick and roll.
    • Keep your rotation short. You simply don’t have the difference makers to win when you are playing your number 10-13 player on the roster. All the players are good but all are NOT good enough to beat Baylor. Go with 8 or 9 player rotation (see option one to keep em out of foul trouble!)
    • Play some zone press to slow down their offense. You can alternate with a trapping 1-3-1 or even a soft one to just slow them down. And every so often perhaps get a turnover or two. As a minimum, put the press on when made free throws. Also play some half court trapping zone press as a change of pace.
    • Play Imani at the elbow(s) the majority of the time. Baylor will double and triple team her at the low post almost every time. Imani usually is tall enough to pass to the cutter on the low post, but Baylor is tall enough to stuff that. So she plays high post and use Lang and Taylor at the low post as passing options. I realize that this takes Imani out of an area that is her strength. However, she had 7 turnovers from bad passes or traveling on the block. She can go down there periodically but most times have out high. She can hit that shot (or longer).
Feel free to pass on to Staff Aston for due consideration……….or better yet trash.

So that is it for me. What have you got ?

I like a lot of your options. I think we should mix up our defenses to keep them off balance. I also would like to see us press Baylor to see how they respond with the ball out of Johnson's hand. I do think playing more zone will help slow them down but Mulkey is a good coach, so she will have them ready for a zone. Plus with Prince (I know she played in the first game but she had just returned) coming back they will have an additional shooter.

I think playing Imani at the high post would be a bad move because it doesn't put any stress on their defense. If I were coaching against us and I saw Imani at the high post, I would feel like we just took her greatest asset away. Her Height! We have to be smarter with the ball and watch our bad shot selection. That alone will get us the win against Baylor. The first game got our of hand when we started shooting quick shots and turning the ball over. This allowed Baylor to get into a rhythm and allowed them to get a few easy baskets. IMO we will need to keep Celina on the floor because without her, we just do NOT have good offensive flow. Plus she plays solid defense and rebounds the ball well.

I really think Coach Aston will have to check her ego and stop trying to over power Baylor with her man to man defense. To beat Mulkey's Bears, you have to be strategic! Which requires mixing it up offensively and defensively. We can't make mistakes like playing two freshmen at the same time or playing Sarah before Kelsey (like we did in the last game). There is no place for emotions when being strategic!

No disrespect to the rest of the players but our core 8 players are the following:

  1. Brooke
  2. Celina
  3. Empress
  4. Taylor
  5. Imani
  6. Kelsey
  7. Ariel
  8. Hosey /Higgs (depends on the match up)
Defensive players that can come in and add some tenacity:
  1. Tasia
  2. Sarah
Additional 3 point shooting:
  1. Brady
 
We have to learn to refuse to lose to Baylor!!! Period...it's not the coaches or game plan! It's the person that is across from you that is beating you.

 
I think HookedorNot has some good points...Imani is a beast under the basket...but if you throw balls too low at her, she will lose them every time...Hey Guards, she is 6 FEET, 7 INCHES TALL...Hellooooo....throw it at the RIM! Or just below!! Like a Zone Defense for sure!!
How do I hate the Bears and Sulkey-*** Mulkey? Let me count the ways!!
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I agree with utfann, BU did some things in that first matchup they hadn't done any other game this season. As many have noted, they came into that contest averaging fewer than 10 FTs per game, and shooting just 58.5% from the line. Going 24-25 and 96% was an anomaly. We are the better team this season but sometimes the better team loses; it just sucks that it happened on the heels of an already lengthy losing streak, and with 9000 fans in the house. But no one feels as bad about that as the staff and players. Like utfann says, I think we stay the course - our strategy was sound.
 
I agree with utfann, BU did some things in that first matchup they hadn't done any other game this season. As many have noted, they came into that contest averaging fewer than 10 FTs per game, and shooting just 58.5% from the line. Going 24-25 and 96% was an anomaly. We are the better team this season but sometimes the better team loses; it just sucks that it happened on the heels of an already lengthy losing streak, and with 9000 fans in the house. But no one feels as bad about that as the staff and players. Like utfann says, I think we stay the course - our strategy was sound.
Not only had they not done it up to that point, they haven't done it since!! Mulkey had her team ready to play period. They knew there were going to be in front of almost 10k fans on national TV and they had their bye so a few extra days to prep. This go around they wont have that luxury.

We're on a collision course to roll into Waco playing for all the marbles, and TBH I couldn't think of a better way to win a B12 title than on BU's home court.
 
Get on the refs right-a-way !!!! Beat Kim to the punch !!!! Cause they gonna cheat ya at Baylor !!!
 

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