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Thinking or redoing my patio area with flagstone and wondering what it would cost to have it done. We have about 450 square feet. Thanks in advance!
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How expensive is flagstone to have put in?
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are you putting the flagstone over your pre-existing concrete patio?? if so, then it is super easy to do yourself... I did this in my current back yard and will probably do it for the front porch on my new house as well as build a walkway from the front door to the curb...
there are plenty of stone yards in Houston.. I go to one at I-10 and Yale called San Jacinto Stone... 1 ton of uncut flagstone will cost between $300-400 depending upon what color you choose... then you'll need a few bags of cement and you're set...
there are plenty of stone yards in Houston.. I go to one at I-10 and Yale called San Jacinto Stone... 1 ton of uncut flagstone will cost between $300-400 depending upon what color you choose... then you'll need a few bags of cement and you're set...
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My dad hired a day laborer to do a few hundred sq ft. He charged $4 per sq ft for the labor. It looks great.
The previous poster is right though, there is not much technical know-how involved. As long as you know what you want it to look like, it's easy to do yourself; just a lot of heavy lifting.
The previous poster is right though, there is not much technical know-how involved. As long as you know what you want it to look like, it's easy to do yourself; just a lot of heavy lifting.
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What if you do not have a concrete slab? Right now I have bricks that are just placed on top of dirt. I want to pull them up and replae with flagstone. I am pretty handy and don't mind doing hard work. Do I need to pour a slab first or just use sand or what?
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You do not need a slab. A slab is just nice because it's already level and has the proper slope.
You dig the area down about six inches. Spread 4 inches of course gravel and then a couple inches of sand. Mix up some concrete in a five gallon bucket or in a masonry tub. The concrete mix is 1 part Portland Cement and 4 parts masonry sand. Add enough water so it has the consistency of pudding. Then lay the stones out and pour the concrete between them. Wipe down the stones as you go so it doesn't dry on top of them too much.
When you dig the area and spread the gravel and sand, make sure you put in a slope away from your house. I think about an inch for every three or four feet is sufficient.
Be advised, that I am not a stone mason. This is just what I have learned from talking to others who have done it. This is how my dad's patio was biult and it looks great. So far it's been there about 5 years and no complaints.
You dig the area down about six inches. Spread 4 inches of course gravel and then a couple inches of sand. Mix up some concrete in a five gallon bucket or in a masonry tub. The concrete mix is 1 part Portland Cement and 4 parts masonry sand. Add enough water so it has the consistency of pudding. Then lay the stones out and pour the concrete between them. Wipe down the stones as you go so it doesn't dry on top of them too much.
When you dig the area and spread the gravel and sand, make sure you put in a slope away from your house. I think about an inch for every three or four feet is sufficient.
Be advised, that I am not a stone mason. This is just what I have learned from talking to others who have done it. This is how my dad's patio was biult and it looks great. So far it's been there about 5 years and no complaints.
Are you handy?
Sounds like you just need to form an edge and then go to town. the post above regarding gravel and sand is really pretty good. Whether or not to cement is you won choice.
I think you are in Houston so using cement is not probably a big issue. Buy a wedge chisel and some glases and be brave.
You can do it! And your neighbor will be bissed at how easy it was for you .
HINT: make sure the patio slan ts away grom the entry to the house.
Sounds like you just need to form an edge and then go to town. the post above regarding gravel and sand is really pretty good. Whether or not to cement is you won choice.
I think you are in Houston so using cement is not probably a big issue. Buy a wedge chisel and some glases and be brave.
You can do it! And your neighbor will be bissed at how easy it was for you .
HINT: make sure the patio slan ts away grom the entry to the house.
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Wow! This is great advice! What about for the edges of the flagstone that go up against the house? Is it possible to chisel an edge sharp enough for a linear border or will a rough edge do?
i did my patio about 10 yrs ago and filled it with crushed granite. it still looks pretty good, but could probably use some more granite fill.
i got all the flagstone from gardenville and moved it myself in many pickup loads. i think it was 10 - 15 cents a pound. since i got to pick the pieces i wanted, i made sure to get a bunch that had straight sides for the border areas. those are the ones i installed first. i don't remember cutting many pieces, but i think when i did it i used a hack saw to score, then snap off with a hammer. if i were to do it today, i would use a grinder with a diamond wheel to score them. either way, most of it is like working on a large scale jigsaw puzzle, arranging the pieces so as to minimize cuts.
i got all the flagstone from gardenville and moved it myself in many pickup loads. i think it was 10 - 15 cents a pound. since i got to pick the pieces i wanted, i made sure to get a bunch that had straight sides for the border areas. those are the ones i installed first. i don't remember cutting many pieces, but i think when i did it i used a hack saw to score, then snap off with a hammer. if i were to do it today, i would use a grinder with a diamond wheel to score them. either way, most of it is like working on a large scale jigsaw puzzle, arranging the pieces so as to minimize cuts.
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chuy pretty much laid it out for you... the only thing I would add is that you can get a stamper tool for $20 or so to help compact the sand/gravel base.... put in any sort of landscaping edge you want to keep grass from growing over it... the concrete he mentioned buying is simple to find.. Quickrete has one that I believe is in a yellow bag with red stripe.. I just bought some yesterday for a shower pan... it is called sand cement or something like that... at any rate you can read the label and it will say that it contains portland cement and sand... others will say that they contain cement gravel and sand...
the biggest obstacle to doing this yourself is time and ability to haul the stones... doing the jigsaw puzzle can be a pain in the ***... OH... as for the parts by the house.. usually you will find the flagstone bundled up at the stone yard... inevitably there will be pieces that were cut to fit the pallet.. voila.. you have your straight edges... that's what I used...
chuy pretty much laid it out for you... the only thing I would add is that you can get a stamper tool for $20 or so to help compact the sand/gravel base.... put in any sort of landscaping edge you want to keep grass from growing over it... the concrete he mentioned buying is simple to find.. Quickrete has one that I believe is in a yellow bag with red stripe.. I just bought some yesterday for a shower pan... it is called sand cement or something like that... at any rate you can read the label and it will say that it contains portland cement and sand... others will say that they contain cement gravel and sand...
the biggest obstacle to doing this yourself is time and ability to haul the stones... doing the jigsaw puzzle can be a pain in the ***... OH... as for the parts by the house.. usually you will find the flagstone bundled up at the stone yard... inevitably there will be pieces that were cut to fit the pallet.. voila.. you have your straight edges... that's what I used...
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Okay, my next question contains 2 parts:
1) What if you're laying the flagstone over an existing concrete sidewalk? How do you secure it to the concrete?
2) When laying over a concrete slab and that slab has those long gaps that are filled with a 1" wide piece of wood (I guess for expansion to reduce cracking?) do you just lay the flagstone over those gaps?
Thanks again, y'all. This is some great info and sounds pretty straight-forward.
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1) What if you're laying the flagstone over an existing concrete sidewalk? How do you secure it to the concrete?
2) When laying over a concrete slab and that slab has those long gaps that are filled with a 1" wide piece of wood (I guess for expansion to reduce cracking?) do you just lay the flagstone over those gaps?
Thanks again, y'all. This is some great info and sounds pretty straight-forward.
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if you're going over concrete then you can just use plain old quickrete... the cement will adhere the stones to the sidewalk... do it like laying tile... slop some cement on the surface and then plop down the flagstone... you might want to get a plastic bag and use it like an icing thing for decorating cakes.. you know make a point and cut a hole in the bottom.. feed the cement in there after you've laid the stones and use that to fill the gaps between them... think of it like grouting.. using the bag will make it less messy..
if you're going over concrete then you can just use plain old quickrete... the cement will adhere the stones to the sidewalk... do it like laying tile... slop some cement on the surface and then plop down the flagstone... you might want to get a plastic bag and use it like an icing thing for decorating cakes.. you know make a point and cut a hole in the bottom.. feed the cement in there after you've laid the stones and use that to fill the gaps between them... think of it like grouting.. using the bag will make it less messy..
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Cool. Thank you!
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