How do I handle this? (job offer)

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CottonEyedHorn

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So, over the past month, I interviewed three times with a company. After the final interview (last Friday), I was verbally extended an offer by the hiring manager, in front of the company HR/recruiter person. There were no details discussed, just "We would like to extend you an offer". I was told that I could expect the written offer to be finalized by Monday AM. Cool. So Monday AM rolls around, nothing. I get a call at 5PM from recruiter saying they were delayed b/c they were waiting on signoff from another senior manager who was unavailable on Monday and that it would be taken care of Tuesday AM. Ok, no big deal. Tuesday rolls around, no call until, again, 5PM. But I can't get the call so it goes to VM: "Hey CEH, I just wanted to call and let you know where we were over here with everything, please give me a call back". Ok, I called them back Weds.AM and left a VM. It is now Friday AM and I still have not heard back from them. I called several times over the past few days and all I get is the recruiter's voice mail. The only other number I have is the cell phone number of one of the people I interviewed with (the manager they were waiting signoff from on Monday). What should I do?
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Things can get slow in August because lots of people take vacations, but yeah, you need to call any number you have and see what's going on. Your offer may have evaporated.
 
A few months ago I went through a 4.5 month, 8 interview odyssey with a medium sized local software maker that fancies themselves very large and important, and recruited me.

Finally, it's a done deal and they extend the offer...and it's 20K +/- south of what I already made. And the biggest difference was in bonus. When I told them this, they asked to see my W2 for 2007 to prove that I in fact did make what I claimed to make. So I showed it to them.

About two weeks later, they come back with a different plan with a lower salary, and a higher bonus that worked out to the same total annual value. In other words same upside, more risk. So I said, basically, that our discussions were complete, and I politely declined the offer.

Three weeks later the recruiter calls me to to inform me that after much discussion, they were going to pass on making me a higher offer.

ME: You pass? I already declined.
Him: sure, but we didn't want you to get the idea that we don't pay top dollar for the candidates we want.
ME: Ok, great.
Him: We just didn't feel that you are the caliber of person to be compensated at the level you apparently want to be.

So in summary- nothing's a done deal until you've got a sufficient offer in hand.
 
I don't know, I think I would walk away. If they're jerking you around like this, no telling what the hell it's like to work there. Either they're a bunch of morons or they don't want to hire you anymore. Not good either way.
 
I agree with Kevwun...if this is an example of how they run their business, don't think I could live with that day in and day out.
 
If its with a big company, sometimes it can be a royal PITA to get the formal offer out the door. It took me +/- 2 weeks to get one out when we had already given a verbal offer with salary...

having said that, if they're not calling you, letting you know what's going on, it doesn't bode well for what the future holds...
 
For OP:

You should have called that manager three days ago. It could very well be a HR deal. Or they've moved on from you and didn't have the courtesy to let you know. Either way, call a real person (i.e. someone not in HR) to find out.

Similar to bozo's story:

I interviewed with E&J Gallo out of college like everyone else on the planet did. The day I accepted a job doing something better, E&J called me with an offer. I said thanks, but no thanks and wrote a nice handwritten note to the guy who was my hiring manager at Gallo thanking him for his consideration, but a better opportunity had presented itself. Loop closed, duty done. Or so I thought. A week later he called saying that he got my note and they were prepared to pay me more money and place me on double secret management fast track! I said thanks, but no thanks and that I'd accepted another offer. Two days later, he left me a message.

It said:

"I was just discussing you with my regional manager. This is tough, but we've decided that you're not the kind of guy we want working with the Gallo family. We're moving on. We made a commitment to you and you haven't followed through. You blew it. The job market is very tough right now for graduates. You will not be receiving another offer."

I saved that message for a year. Allsome.

You can't break up with us! We're breaking up with you!
 
LOL at scipio and bozo's posts. These companies that think they can just run themselves without paying talented people. They put themselves up on a pedestal.



I always wanted to work as a wine rep. Any money in that?
 
I called and left a polite message for the other manager on Friday, letting them know I hadn't heard from HR and was just wondering if there was anything else they needed from me, etc. I'm not terribly concerned right now,just a little miffed at the lack of professionalism. Hoping good things come about early next week...
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It might be a bad sign but it also just might be corporate HR red tape that slows the process down through no fault of anyone local. I had a similar thing happen when offered my current position - HR out of California has to process the offer letters, HR person is out of the office for a couple days and it sits, then HR person can't find it and has to do another one, then they miss the last FedEx time. I'm freaking a little all because one idiot, who ends up getting fired, makes the company look bad.
 
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