Horse Collars?

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UTmainman

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Now that the NCAA has continued its policy of just copying everything the NFL does and has proposed this rule, it has me thinking. People always talk about how dangerous it is, and maybe I'm stupid, but the only player I can think of getting hurt by it is TO. Even if there are more, they we're probably all hurt by evil Roy. I just don't see this as a problem. I don't think it causes any more injuries than a typical tackle.
 
Donovan McNabb's injury was also due to evil Roy being unable to tackle properly, like anything else he does on the field. This is a horrible way to get people seriously injured. Pull your heads out
 
There is a balance between playing the game and having bad things accidently happen and allowing dangerous play.

A high profile player gets hurt and the NFL enacts this rule and yet they continue to allow players to lead with the crown of helmet in tackling despite mountains of evidence that show the connection between that technique and catastrophic injury.

My fear is that in an attempt to regulate certain actions the game is changed. Consider the big pass play in the Super Bowl. If you had applied the original guidelines of the NFL's rules for in the grasp Eli is down and one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl history is never made. I am not saying Eli should have been called down. Hell, the Pats defensders had their chances and couldn't make the play. Instead, that the NFL had gone too far and changed the way the game is played. Same to me with horse collars.
 
Horse Collar is a bs rule.

There should be an Evil Roy rule. If Evil Roy is seen on the field for your team, you get a 15 yard penalty. That should cover it.
 
The horse collar is the nastiest move in football. It is way worse than clipping and the hi-lo which all have been illegal for years, why no whining about these rules. The horse collar is particularly nasty since it typically causes the knee ligaments to shred and spiral fracturing in the leg bones.

Stop sticking up for some lazy slack *** who has to use dirty moves to make a tackle because he is always in bad position. This is a safety thing, since the horse collar is a new style of tackling, not copying the NFL. Other things are arguably copying the NFL but this is for the health of the players.
 
p town,

Actuallly, dragging player down from behind has been around for a long time.

It is terrible technique, but at which point and time is the NFL going to switch to flag football league with the limits on contact.
 
Careful ptown... our own Michael Huff had a horsecollar tackle in the NC game against USC's TE. Was he a "lazy slack ***" or just outweighed by 30-50 lbs? That's a rhetorical question by the way, and this post is not to be takent seriously.
 
Devin Thomas, from San Antonio Madison, lost half his senior season due to a horse collar tackle. Huge loss, I expected Madison to play for the state title with him in the backfield..
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How is the horse collar much different than pulling you down by the back of your jersey? Pretty soon they'll have to play in loin cloths so there's nothing to grab.
 
Well in high school I personally knew a D-1 level running back (already invited to Aggie and Bama mini camps) get his femur shattered by this move, and he didn't even get a D-2 offer after that. That's not the point, the point is that it frequently causes career ending injury.

Being tackled from behind or dragged down by a jearsey is not the same as a horse collar. Being tackled from the back usually pulls your entire body back or sideways. A horse collar pulls your upper body and shoulders back and down, while your torso (especially abdoinals) and legs are still moving forward, much the way a hi-lo makes your upper and lower halves go in different directions. It pretty much has the same effect on the ball carrier as reaching over his head and grabbing the top of the opening in his helmet and pulling it down from behind. It is bad stuff man, bad stuff.
 
I have also seen players get hurt from jumping over piles, blocking other players, tackling other players, throwing passes, catching passes, defending passes, hitting the passer, being tackled, and tackling itself.

Some serious and some minor. The point is that injuries are a part of the game. Rules are there to make sure games are played fairly and protect the players, but at some point the rules to protect players can't impair the ability of one side to do make plays.

If you go low on a ball carrier the tackler runs risk of getting hurt and how many people on this very board bitched about such tactics when Hodges got hurt? You just about can't touch the head and now grabbing a ball carrier from behind is going to be illeagal?

I don't mean to sound callous, but you can't regulate every aspect of the game that might lead to an injury.
 
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