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Tech is now officially bared from bitching about calls in sports. Tech just won with almost half of their points from the charity stripe!!! What a load of ****!!!
 
I don't wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I don't have a problem with the game and think we squandered the chances that they gave to us. There was that period of time they could not make a shot but we would turn the ball over or mess it up. We liked being down 9 or so it seemed.

They won, we lost. Now, if you want to see a game where the ref's take over, go watch the Duke v. NC State game. THAT was grotesque.
 
didn't watch the Duke game but if it was as bad as you say it was, then what do you consider this game, because Tech had more free throw points than Duke.
 
p town, there as a crucial point in that game where a NC State player was hooked and grabbed by a Duke player RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF and the ref called a foul on the NC State player. Nothing like that happened here.

There have been a lot of games where the Horns had a very lopsided amount of trips to the charity stripe as well. Were we cheating or where the refs then? Was this a makeup game where the refs had to let Tech have so many? Or did we just foul a lot in dumb situations and times?
 
Tech had so many points from the line because we kept putting them there with silly touch fouls thirty feet from the basket, and then fouling to get back in the game.
 
they got plenty of those free throws when we were fouling them on purpose, or at the very least, playing VERY aggressive defense to generate turnovers. and they made them. good for them, too bad for us. doesn't mean the refs called the game unfairly.
 
we missed either 10 or 11 straight from 3 point land in the the middle of the 2nd half. That's not acceptable.
 
Turning point of this game was Mason's Technical. We were on our way to building a lead then he does something stupid. They make 4 FT's and cut our lead in half.
 
"we missed either 10 or 11 straight from 3 point land in the the middle of the 2nd half. That's not acceptable."

Not acceptable because we missed them or because we shouldn't have kept shooting them?
 
I don't know what you call it but Barnes was not a happy camper about the officiating and said he couldn't say anything. Tech went on a 16-1 run after the tech was called on Mason. All he was doing was talking to James. Go figure.
 
IMO, refs were fine. We played bad defense and were reaching and grabbing b/c we were out of position most of the time. They made the shots, we missed them. TT outplayed us and deserved to win.
 
Again, does this mean the ref's were responsible for any games wherre the Horns had a lopsided free throw margin in a game? Because this has happened this year. aggy moans about it all the time.

Keep moving folks, there is nothing to see here.
 
We lost because we played really bad. That simple.

That being said, the officiating was also pretty bad. Had it not been that terrible, we very well may have gotten away with playing that bad and winning.
 
Texas decided that fouling was form of defense today, and on offense we resorted to jumpshots. That explains the FT disparity, not the refs.
 
Lets also look at points in the pant. I don't have any stats on it but I bet we outscored them in the lane by a lot. That would usually mean you are going to get calls for being aggressive offensively, right? Most of the calls at the start of the second half on UT were half *** pokes and wrist nicks that were called 45 feet from the hoop.
 
l00p -

If you don't believe poor officiating had anything to do with it, state that. Otherwise, but do not even begin to say we had a huge advantage in FT attempts in multiple games.

Our previous 4 games, we were +2 vs. KSU, -8 (OU), -9 (Ags), and even (Baylor). We are negative if we don't have leads versus K State and Baylor. Your case might could be made with +14 vs KU.

Prior to today, in conference games and big non-conference games, we had a positive differential in 8 games and negative in 8 games. We were even twice. The 8 positive average 7.5 more FTs. the 8 negative average was 6.25 fewer FTs.

UCLA we were -5. UTenn we were +7.

Overall, I would say that is pretty even given the fact that we are being chased much more than we are chasing.

We didn't shoot our first free throw in the 2nd half until 2:25 left. Borderline or questionable calls happen all the time, and we got no points on borderline calls for that length of time. We shot too much outside, but you would not have said that when we shot either 1 to A&M's 10 in the first half when we won. What about when we were outshot 12-5 in the first half versus OU.

College officiating sucks. It did today. But what do you expect when you have so many old guys doing game after game in different cities on what seems every night. You would probably be tired too.
 
I was working and didn't get to see the game. Looking at the boxscore the things that stood out to me were 3 point% (.321), Atchley playing 24 minutes and scoring 2 points after the week of Connor radio, and the large discrepancy in FT's.

Just looking at it it really stands out.....43 FT's to 13 for Texas. That led to 25 more points in this game. That is a pretty ridiculous stat. However 10 of them were in the last 64 seconds (all made too) when Texas was trying to get back into it.....I wouldn't blame those on the refs. There was also 8 more FT's from 2:13 to 1:18.

Sounds to me like refs might not have been great but that overall stats are skewed a bit due to those FT's down the stretch.
 
threads like this make me want to puke. even with beneficial officiating we should wipe the floor with those guys. they won and we lost. excuses are only made by the team that lost. get the **** over it.
 
Officiating did not cost this game.

The Horns could have helped their FT cause by hitting the front end of some 1 & 1 opportunities, Wangmene during the Tech late first half run that smoked the Horns and Augustin near the end. Those misses were 2 points and cost chances for 2 more - the difference in the game. We knew the Horns' FT% would lose them a game or two this year. This might have been one of them.

Otherwise, Texas played on cruise control late first half and early second half and let a fired up Tech take it to them. One team was prepared to play and the other wasn't . Better now than early in the NCAA tourney.
 
The difference between Hornfans and Texags is so evident in this thread. When we lose, even when the other team shoots 30 more free throws, we blame ourselves. Hornfans rules.
 
The idea that officials go into games with the preconceived notion that they will "give the home team more FT shots" is very, very laughable.

Sad, but laughable.
 
I don't think there are preconceived notions, nor that the officials had any malice of forethought in the calls. It is called home cookin' because some officials get nervous, or whatever, when the crowd is breathing down their necks about calls and there are getting ****. Jelly spined officials can get intimidated and that is when you can start to see some calls going the home team's way.

If there is no merit to this then why do I constantly see people on hornfans bitching about Mack and Rick not being vocal enough with officials? No one seems to like a coach who is not on the officials *** about calls, so I assume there is some merit to the idea that officials can be swayed by things during a game.
 
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