here's a crazy thought

[BabHorn]

Beat Baylor Monday, tie for the season title, get the number one seed in the tournament.
If I am reading the tiebreakers correctly,
first tie breaker is head to head. (tie at 1-1)
second tie breaker is how the teams did vs the rest of the teams in order of ranking.
both us and BU beat WVU, who is third.
OSU and OU are tied for fourth. OSU swept OU.
we swept OSU, BU split with OSU.
Advantage: Horns who get the number one seed.

But that is just the way I am interpreting it.

Tie breaker rules:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520896

 

["Anna hook em"]

I believe thats what they said also last night while watching the game on LHN, so tomorrow night its for all the marbles.

 

[WCBBNUT]

You are correct

 

[HornView]

Yep, that's how Nell explained it to Fran Harris and Coach Conradt on the telecast last night.

I will have a Hook Em Horngasm if this happens!

 

[BabHorn]

good. I will have a chance to watch the replay today at 5:30 pm on the LHN. Still, it won't play out that way if OSU loses and OU wins since OU would then be the second and deciding tiebreaker which would give BU the number one seed. So, we have to win and OSU has to win for us to get the number one seed.

 

[DFW_Horn]

Based on last week's bracketology, currently the last #2 seed which would place UT in UCONN's bracket so tomorrow and the Big 12 tournament have implications beyond the conference. Ohio State and Oregon State losses help UT but this just adds to the long list of reasons the Longhorns need the big road win tomorrow.

 

[BabHorn]

personally, I don't think we are the last #2 if that is the seeding we get. Rather, I think we are the first or second #2. But that's jmo.

 

[HornView]

Creme still showing Texas as top #2 seed in ND's bracket

Another current #2 seed Arizona State lost today to UCLA that I would think helps solidify Texas standing for now

Oregon State & Maryland complete the #2 seeds. Maryland is going to clinch the Big 10 championship outright (w Ohio State's recent fade) provided they finish off MN today and Oregon State has the #1 seed in Pac 12 tourney tying with ASU, but winning the head to head matchup.

Another committee reveal tomorrow night at halftime of UCONN's game will tell us something.

February has 29 days, but it feels like March Madness is early this year. More games, more jockeying to come.

 

[Moooooo]

I don't think the committee fills the bracket in a "snake" curve manner. After the #1 national seeds have been set, the #2 national seeds are placed based on geographic proximity. So, if Maryland is the highest #2 seed, they get placed in the region closest to them. Then, the next #2 national seed is placed in the region closest to them, and so on. If that is still the case this year, then Texas needs to stay ahead of the PAC schools earning #2 seeds as the closest regional them is going to be Dallas.

 

[DFW_Horn]

I don't think the committee fills the bracket in a "snake" curve manner. After the #1 national seeds have been set, the #2 national seeds are placed based on geographic proximity. So, if Maryland is the highest #2 seed, they get placed in the region closest to them. Then, the next #2 national seed is placed in the region closest to them, and so on. If that is still the case this year, then Texas needs to stay ahead of the PAC schools earning #2 seeds as the closest regional them is going to be Dallas.

My mistake then - I was going on what Nell Fortner said during last night's broadcast.

 

[HornView]

I don't think the committee fills the bracket in a "snake" curve manner. After the #1 national seeds have been set, the #2 national seeds are placed based on geographic proximity. So, if Maryland is the highest #2 seed, they get placed in the region closest to them. Then, the next #2 national seed is placed in the region closest to them, and so on. If that is still the case this year, then Texas needs to stay ahead of the PAC schools earning #2 seeds as the closest regional them is going to be Dallas.

That scenario would put Maryland in UCONN's bracket. Not much of a reward for being the highest #2 seed.

 

[jusme828]

I questioned Creme on twitter if he saw any way that Baylor and Texas would both be in the Dallas regional, like before when Baylor and A&M were. He answered something like, "It doesn't work that way anymore." I don't know what that meant.

 

[HornView]

I questioned Creme on twitter if he saw any way that Baylor and Texas would both be in the Dallas regional, like before when Baylor and A&M were. He answered something like, "It doesn't work that way anymore." I don't know what that meant.

I saw someone ask Creme why Oregon State was not a lock for Sioux Falls and his answer was Texas was ahead of them on the S-curve but can't be placed in Dallas if Baylor is there.

 

[Moooooo]

Crème also seems to think that Kentucky will host a sub-regional as a Top 16 national seed, but won't get placed in the Kentucky regional (if South Carolina) is there. Is there a rule that the hometown school can't be placed in the regional on their homecourt (like the men)? I know UK will be hosting regionals for three years in a row; not sure they'd have bid on that if the home team couldn't play in its own regional. Don't think Lexington is a city that has shown huge support for NCAA women's tourney hoops in the past.

Part of the uncertainty is which of Notre Dame or South Carolina would get the #2 overall national seed; each is closest to the Lexington, KY regional. So, if USC goes to Lexington, then Notre Dame goes to Sioux Falls, SD. If Notre Dame goes to Lexington, then USC goes to Dallas as that is closer to Columbia, SC than Sioux Falls, SD.

Now, if either or both don't win their conference tourney, then that might solve the above.

 

[HornView]

Crème also seems to think that Kentucky will host a sub-regional as a Top 16 national seed, but won't get placed in the Kentucky regional (if South Carolina) is there. Is there a rule that the hometown school can't be placed in the regional on their homecourt (like the men)? I know UK will be hosting regionals for three years in a row; not sure they'd have bid on that if the home team couldn't play in its own regional. Don't think Lexington is a city that has shown huge support for NCAA women's tourney hoops in the past.

Part of the uncertainty is which of Notre Dame or South Carolina would get the #2 overall national seed; each is closest to the Lexington, KY regional. So, if USC goes to Lexington, then Notre Dame goes to Sioux Falls, SD. If Notre Dame goes to Lexington, then USC goes to Dallas as that is closer to Columbia, SC than Sioux Falls, SD.

Now, if either or both don't win their conference tourney, then that might solve the above.

Yea he said something about a rule of any school being in the top 4 lines when he said KY can't be in the Lexington regional if South Carolina is there.

 

[HornView]

Committee has moved the Longhorns to #5 (the top #2 seed). I get the feeling there's a push to give love to the Pac 12,but I feel strongly Texas is better than their best no matter what transpires tonight or in the conf tourney

 

[BabHorn]

http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14872178/connecticut-huskies-south-carolina-gamecocks-remain-atop-ncaa-women-committee-top-10-rankings

we will see after tonight:

Could No. 4 Baylor fall out if its spot as one of the overall No. 1 seeds and possibly end up swapping with No. 5 Texas? The committee released its list before Monday's Texas-Baylor game, and those teams could meet again in the Big 12 tournament in Oklahoma City.

I thought that both Oregon State and Arizona State lost about the same time as Ohio State, although only once, not twice like Ohio State. Of course, it helped us as we moved into their previous #5 spot.

That meant Pac-12 regular-season co-champions Oregon State and Arizona State and Big Ten champion Maryland each moved up a spot from last time to Nos. 6, 7 and 8

 

[WCBBNUT]

Officially at this point.

 

[BBV_Horn]

"The Longhorns could have two shots at Baylor in the next eight days, and that is the opportunity to get to the final No. 1 seed. Otherwise, Texas could find itself fighting off the winner of the Pac-12 or Big Ten tournaments for the top No. 2 seed" Creme

Now it's down to ONE shot (hopefully)...
Yesterday was ugly, no doubt, but this team may bounce back and learn from the mistakes..

[Hope springs eternal]

 

[Moooooo]

Updated Bracketology:

http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/bracketology

Doubt we'll get a number one seed over Baylor after already losing to them twice in decisive fashion. If we can advance to the Big 12 championship game, we will probably be the #5 or #6 overall seed (based on our body of work). If we don't take care of our business in OKC, then we put ourselves at the mercy of the committee.

The good news for us is that of the other teams jockeying for the #5-8 overall national seeds:

- One of Maryland or Ohio State for sure loses in B1G tournament
- All but one of Oregon State, Arizona State, Stanford, and UCLA for sure lose in the PAC tournament

So, cheer for upsets in those conference tourneys.

 

[Moooooo]

More from Crème:

• • Texas, despite its blowout loss at Baylor, holds onto the No. 5 overall spot because its resume remains better than that of Oregon State. Most of the data points are close, but the Longhorns are 10-3 against the RPI top 50; the Beavers are 5-4.

• • Neither Kentucky nor Louisville landed in the Lexington Region. In order to preserve the integrity of these seeds and the bracketing principle that teams from the same conference on the top-4 seed lines must be placed in different regions, it was impossible to get either the Wildcats or Cardinals in Lexington.

• • Kansas State's overall status did not improve after Monday's loss to Oklahoma State. But keeping teams from the same conference from potentially meeting until the regional final forced the Wildcats to have their seed line moved one line. In this case, Indiana's placement was the issue, so Kansas State's seed was switched with that of the Hoosiers.

I still don't understand his statements about Kentucky; he doesn't state that UK isn't allowed to be seeded in they regional they are set to host in Lexington, KY. He makes it sounds as though South Carolina being placed there takes precedence (as a #1 seed) over the host school as both are in the same conference.

By returning to the top 16 seeds hosting sub-regionals, one would think the objective overall is to increase attendance; that won't happen if you don't place UK in its own Regional.

In the end, I think we will see something like:

Bridgeport: UConn/Maryland (or Ohio State depending on who wins B1G)
Lexington: Notre Dame/Texas (or Ohio State based on proximity)
Dallas: Baylor/Oregon State or Arizona State
Sioux Falls: South Carolina/Texas or PAC school

Ideally, I would like to see South Carolina as the #1 seed in Dallas with us #2; and, that would mean Baylor would get shipped out to Sioux Falls, SD.

 

[Ellis21d]

Officially at this point.

Adrian Peterson couldn't have put a whop'en on them any worse!!