goodbye powers, hello community college

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Perry wanted a cheap degree at UT and that meant cutting everything and Powers et al resisted. Perry's handpicked BOR send one scout to dig dirt and he comes up with some preferential treatment re admissions at the law school, And the people getting the special treatment aren't minorities!!!!


Down goes Powers!!!!

And lets get rid of him in the summer when the faculty and students are vacationing and the campus is full of school teachers working on furthering their resumes.

That is how Frank Erwin got rid of people who challenged his reign of mediocrity. And how Boston University became a very good university at our expense by getting John Silber.

History repeats itself.

Perry set out to wreck our school and now he is going to do it. Mission Accomplished, you Aggie POS
 
Exaggerate much? I'm sure we'll find a suitable replacement and I don't recall UT being a military academy using political endorsements as part of admissions.

While that alone isn't enough to get fired he he's been known to burn bridges which I'm sure led to this as well.

UT will be fine.
 
Aggie piece of **** is right.

And f anyone who voted for Perry especially if you have a degree from UT.
 
Well, if I worked at Western Governors University or TSTI Waco, I'd be polishing my resume. I think those are the schools Perry would like us to emulate.
 
I don't care for Perry, but he is not trying to destroy UT.

It is time for Powers to get the boot and there are a whole bunch of Texas Exes that feel that way. Talk to a few of those Texas Exes that had their kids denied admission to UT while Powers is administering a corrupt racist "holistic" admission process.
I am a UT grad and my youngest recently graduated from UT and I witnessed first hand how poorly Powers allows this University to be run. Especially when he was "forced" to make budget cuts.
I also don't understand how the Texas Exes has become a shill for Powers.
I also don't understand why so many people are lining up against open government including open records. Are they for closed government? "Don't look at what I am doing, ain't yo bidness". Anyone should be able to submit a freedom of information request to a government entity and get that information unless protected by law such as individual health records.
A sitting Regent should have access to all records. The problem in this case is Powers, who instead of making available, aiding and assisting information requests by a sitting Regent took the opposite stance of obstruction.
I believe in open government and Powers obstruction to access of records simply means he had something to hide.

The regent asked for information and Power's should have made it available on day one. Period.

Instead we have political wrangling with favors being called in, impeachment proceedings (see rep Pitts and his letter to Powers to get his son in UT Law), Texas Exes becoming an outright shill for Powers. And for what? Powers doesn't want to be questioned or produce records to a regent that is tasked with the oversight of the University of Texas.
 
I don't care about all the political BS. I care that perry wants to have UT offering $10,000 degrees. Although the cost of education is inflated due to a number of factors, his plan is terrible for the status of the university. UT is a top research university that drives innovation and growth for Austin and the state. To be able to offer a 10k degree, a significant amount of that research would have to be cut. Class sizes would be huge or offered online only and that would be the only focus of the university....kind of like a community college. We already have plenty of those, so why would you try to turn a top university into another one? Some of the lesser schools in the state have already tried to comply with this but require students to take up to 87 hours at a community college before actually setting foot on campus. Only perry can take a decent idea such as cutting overhead, reducing tuition, and focusing more on students and turn it into a complete disaster.
 
we have been giving preferential treatment to some people as a matter of law for some time; the law school did it for political reasons in a few cases. I don't like it but it is de minimus compared to what Perry and his ilk want to do---and yes, they want to do it to A&M as well, I would be against it even if it was just aimed at A&M.

Look at Perry's grades as an undergrad and you can see he was not a particularly avid student; he certainly is not aiming for the best education for the most but the least expensive for the most.

He would like to run for president as a tax cutter and he cannot do that by raising more money for mere trifles like higher education and decent highways.

By the way, some of you need to take a drive on the state roads in the Eagle Ford Shale area and see what a marvelous job the state of Texas is doing promoting the future.
 
I guess I have been sitting here now for a decade or so wondering how anyone who had anything remotely to do with The University of Texas could support an aggie cheerleader for governor of this State, and thereby place regency appointment in the hands of an imbecile sworn to take down The University.

That, in itself, is enough to not just vote against the farmer cheerleader, but to actively seek his ouster.

There is no conservative or progressive in this debate. Perry should never, but never, been allowed to have this power over UT.

Someone help me out here.
 
IvanDiabloHorn, can you please name me at least just a few of the "whole bunch of Texas Exes that feel that way."

I mean, I'm looking at UT professors, students, alumni and the ******* Legislature trying to protect Powers -- when in the **** was the last time STUDENTS rallied to support their University President -- and I'm not seeing a single ******* "whole bunch of Texas Exes that feel that way."
 
The top students apply and go to Texas regardless of the cost of tuition. Having the best and brightest students in Texas educated at a world class University at a lower tuition rate is not only achievable but should be desired by us. Because the tuition is lowered does not mean we become a community college.
Having just paid for my youngest to attend UT, I can say the tuition is too high and corrupt. Corrupt in that a percentage of the paid tuition(I paid for my kids tuition) was taken from one student( me) and given to a financial need qualified student without the consent of the student.(me)

Did Powers effectively manage his cuts in revenue. NO.
He cut the teaching departments.
While he cut $3,500,000 form the liberal arts school in 2011/2012 including the Western European
History professor, he spent:
$3,244,608 for 96 employees at the International office
$8,500,128 for 182 employees for the University Charter School
$2,562,180 for 60 employees for Office of Sponsored Projects
$1,784,952 for 39 employees for the UT Elementary School.
$3,470,740 for 70 employees for the Department of Diversity and Community engagement including Vincent's salary of $280,719.
These numbers are couple of years old, but he chose to cut teaching schools across the board.

When Powers needed to cut the budget, he chose to cut teaching departments along with professors.

The costs above have nothing to do with research or teaching students that will only have 4 years at UT to receive an education. (shouldn't take more than 4 years)

I see $19,562,608 that could not only have been cut but applied to the teaching departments and research.
 
Varsity, you are not hearing them because they are not
being allowed a dissenting view by outlets like the Texas Exes. Call the Texas exes advocates and ask that a view that Powers be removed and see if it makes it on their agenda. Talk to some Texas Exes that have had their kids denied admission.
 
WTF would anyone call the Texas Exes -- an alumni organization whose main purpose seems to be to organize bus rides to football games -- and ask for the dismissal of the President of the University.

Holy ****, man. Have I stepped into the Twilight Zone?
 
[pulling what hair I have left out of my head] Um, IvanDiabloHorn, while you have been scrutinizing the spreadsheet on the elementary school spending, are you aware that Bill Powers is the ******* President of the AAU? Are you so out of it that you didn't know he is regarded as a ******* badass among academicians at the highest level?[/pulling what hair I have left out of my head]
 
You mean versus calling the Texas exes to send emails to alumni with email addresses and phone numbers of elected officials to contact to support Bill Powers?
The last email I received from the Exes was a personal letter written by K B Hutchinson in support of Powers basically trying to paint Powers and the University as one entity. Seems like she used half of her missive to denounce whoever leaked information. Apparently whoever leaked the story is a very bad person.
I am still waiting for a dissenting opinion to be sent in a mass email to the exes that calls for the removal of Powers.
Count me out of the " I am for Powers just because" group.
How much money did he just spend going to the SCOTUS to try and defend a racist admission policy?
Needs to go for a lot of reasons that does have anything to do with imaginary aggy boogymen.
 
Not hyperbole, corrupt. I did not choose to pay for another student to attend the University of Texas, only my kid.
I would have to say even more corrupt is forcing the student that has taken loans out to attend UT having to pay tuition for a student that could have taken out his own loan.
So now the student that took out a student loan gets to not only pay back the portion of the loan used for another student but the interest on that portion as well. That is corrupt, my friend.
 
Ivan,

Why is that corrupt? You think Powers is pocketing that money?

You know who benefits from that? Your son who might have been informed from the experiences of other students from different economic backgrounds. What you're complaining about is the cost of a complete education.

Nearly 60% of all Yale undergrads get financial aid. Acceptance is needs blind...it's not like that money is going to morons. 75% of Rice undergrads receive financial aid. Texas? 62% receive financial aid.


Even Perry would disagree with you on this one. He thinks we should pay for the education of children of illegal immigrants.
 
It wasn't done at Texas until 2009 with Powers in full support in the legislature for this theft. Theft = corrupt. Call it what you want to, but it is statutory theft and thereby corrupt. One student taking out a student loan and having to pay for a student that could take the same loan is corrupt.
If the same thing is done elsewhere, it is also corrupt.
Probably need legislative action to repeal that part of the education code once Powers can no longer give admission advantages to unqualified admission requests of legislators.
 
Being part of a University is more than just buying a degree. You're not joining a Ferrari Club. There are athletes who never paid a cent in tuition and were subsidized by you. Some of them were All-Americans some may have sucked. Do you want your money back from them?

There may have been some grad student on financial aid that discovered some amazing new polymer that brought the University millions of dollars of grants that covered teaching expenses. You owe him money.

Maybe one of these financial need kids you're subsidizing now becomes a billionaire. And when he donates $500 million to the University, he stipulates that none of it be used for your progeny. That would be funny.
 
Do you not think that the state should fund universities at all? There are plenty of people that never went to college paying for your kid with their taxes.
 
I never opined against financial aid for qualified students. Never. What I said is that aid should not come out of the pockets of middle class students and families that are already under financial stress to pay for their own tuition, including increasing loans for in order to pay another students tuition. Mandating this contribution by statute is corrupt.
 
Well then...don't send your kid to college. I'm serious. A school with no financial package would cease to be competitive very quickly.

That's the cost of being an educated gentleman. Everyone who gets financial aid is qualified, otherwise they wouldn't be at UT. So, where exactly do you think funding for financial aid (not student loans) comes from?

Are you suggesting that those families receiving financial aid are better off financially then you?
 
Where did financial aid come from before 2009? That is the year Texas decided to steal tuition money from one student and give it to another student..
My kids went to Texas and I paid without financial aid. There are families that did not qualify for financial aid and had to take out loans to pay for their kid's tuition.
Financial aid for qualifying students should not in any circumstance come from another student's tuition without their consent.
Whatever financial aid is available needs to be supplemented with student loans to those need based qualified students. Apparently prior to 2009 there was financial aid money, right?
 
I get it. It sucks. I take home 28k/yr on my teaching salary and paid for my masters out of pocket at full price. I'm fine with looking at better ways to help smart kids from poor families get an education. But, this is a nationwide issue that wasn't started by powers.
 
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