'Getting rated' in Vegas

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I am off to Vegas this weekend and have never been "rated" before. I usually play craps, blackjack and poker and usually hang out at the $10 tables playing sound blackjack and basic pass/max odds craps.

Playing all weekend, I usually come out even but have lost and won anywhere in upwards of $2000 on a visit. So I guess I would consider myself an average player??? Should I even consider getting rated as a player with that amount of money at issue?


What exactly does it mean to get rated? Also, any suggestions on going about this are much appreciated.
 
get a players card and give it to the dealer when you get chips. they'll rate your bets. many places wont rate you under $10 a hand or even $25 a hand, although the latter is fairly rare i think.

at an average BJ table you should expect to make your average bet amount in comps after 4 hours or so of play. this is a VERY rough estimate, many places vary. some are a lot better, others worse. it's hard to know before you go and track your play vs your comps.

so if you bet an average of $10, after 4 hours you'll have earned roughly $10 in comps. you can then go to the players club booth and ask for a meal ticket, for that to be applied to your room, etc.

also, if you lose a bunch, some places will give you like 10% back in the form of credit on your hotel bill.

but never, ever bet to get comps. you're better off just paying for what you'd get for "free" after losing $2k.
 
If you are planning on staying in the same casino and around the same area, you should get rated. However, the one time I was rated, the boss asked me if I had been rated since I was doing well that night (he wanted me to stick around and lose my winnings). Being rated means that if they deem you are worthy (you spent or won enough money) they will give you some sort of comp. like dinner for two at there nicest restaurant, one night stay for free, entrance to a nightclub, etc. Hope this helps and good luck to ya!
 
If you are getting rated at the tables, the bosses have a lot of leeway, so it would pay to be nice to them. One night the boss rated me at avg of $105 per hand for 6 hours when I was probably averaging closer to $60 per hand for 3 hours.
 
Always get a palyers card from the casino
always put it the machine or give it to the dealer
rating will depend on size of bet and length
what you get for that rating will vary widely from casino to casino
your play at high end casinos like ceasars, venetian, wynn ect. probably gets you a thank you-
at many other casino it might rate food even room and food
like the above poster said- NEVER BET FOR COMPS
never bet over your head and please dont play with the rent
DO HAVE FUN
I get sweaty palms just thinking about vegas
 
If you play a lot, getting rated is a must.

At the MGM Grand, you need to bet >$35 hands to get rated. But it changes on each casino.

You usually end up getting "free" stuff out of it, like free rooms, free upgrades, or even chips for gambling.

Good luck!
 
venetian requires 14 hours of play with an average bet of jsut over $200 to earn comps.

* they will give you good offers for being a player's club member, but they are not "comps".
 
The upper scale casinos require $25 min bet, but the lower end only $10. I just got back from annual trip to LV for Super Bowl Weekend and stay at The Orleans. I play $10 BJ and increase my bet when I go on winning streaks. I normally sit down with $200 buy in and give the dealer my Players Card when I get my chips.

They enter your info in the computer and the Pit Bosses watch you and enter "stuff" about you. The longer you stay at a table the more credit you get. You accumulate points. I usually asked the Pit Boss for breakfast or lunch for 4 people and always got it. I'm sure they "credit" my account for that, but that's what points are for.

After you play for awhile you just have to be assertive with the Pit Boss and ask for favors. I am truly a small potatoes player and don't usually ask anyone for any favors, but in Vegas you accrue priviledges so you might as well ask!

Good Luck and Hook'em!!!
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most of the hotels have crappy comp systems unless you really start betting big (i.e. $300-500 per hand or roll of the dice.)

And something I learned recently about craps and ratings. If you bet $10 on the line and backed it up with full odds, the odds are not counted towards the total, in terms of average bet. Obviously the same thing for Come bets and their odds. i learned this because a friend and I were both playing at Paris. He consistently bet Place bets, and I had Come bets with full odds. He probably averaged about $75-100 on the table at any one time. I average $100-125. He had double the comp points than I had because the odds are nil to the comp system.

like stated, don't bet to get comps.
 
They also track how many chips you buy. A friend buys all his chips with his player card at the window and redeems part of them without his card with the floor runners. They track him as having lost $200-300 a day even though half of that ended up as his spending money. Meaning he bought chips equivalent to his spending money for the day but never laid them on a table. You need to be disciplined not to go past your gambling chips and into your spending money chips.
 
the biggest mistake i ever made at a casino was not getting rated when i lived in new orleans for 2+ months. I was staying at the W, which is literally across the street from Harrah's.

there were nights when i would sit down for 6+ hours and throw $75-$200 a hand at the bj table. then i would get up with winnings or not and just head out. no players card, no comps. don't let that be you.

oh, and have fun!
 
Not sure I understand the concept of buying chips but not gambling gets you higher rated. They really don't care about how much you win or lose. Sure, if they see is a really big amount one way or another but a few hundred bucks lost in the mix means zip.

A pit boss at Paris told me that if you dropped 10K on one hand, you wouldnt be rated very high. Bet $100 per hand for 4 hours and you would get the credit.

Old Vegas where the pit boss writes down some comps on a piece of paper is almost gone. A computer decides your comps now. The pit boss or floor mgr justs keys some numbers in the system. They don't even know the formula to figure out what you get. A casino host has more pull but you have to bet much more than $10 per hand to get their attention.
 
If you go to Vegas and NEVER GAMBLE, but pay for your hotel room, your drinks, your food, and your transportation...

You will come out WAY AHEAD in the end.

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Funny you said that. I happened to run into the guy today and he said with all the modern tracking systems his method hasn't worked in a few years.
 
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