Fried Chicken

Crockett

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I guess we have all heard about Sergio's "hurtful" remarks about inviting Tiger over for "fried chicken". I wish to defend the beleagured "fried chicken."
Fried chicken is wonderful food. Obviously the deep fried stuff you get in fast food places and restaurants is not gourmet quality. When my grandmother used to go out to the chicken house and pop the heads off a couple of chickens with one swift one-handed motion to start Sunday lunch, we were getting something way better than folks now can conceive. I've never loved food more. Cooked slowly in a cast iron frying pan with a lid, she created a deliciousness for the ages. She wasn't alone in that. I spoke to a foreman of a ranch by the Marcus family (Neiman Marcus folks) in the 1960a when Edward Marcus would bring guests from all over the world to his Flower Mound ranch. Once he brought in the vice presient of a South American country and his family. So he asked that the foreman's wife cook up extra Fried Chicken. Everybody loved it, Jews, Catholics, Baptists sitting around a table enjoying fare that was proud and delicious.
Excuse the rant -- but the idea of besmirching the proud dish that is fried chicken brings tears to my eyes. Stop it! Stop it! Stop It!
 
Taking offense to the invitation of a fried chicken meal extended to anyone of any race says much more about the ignorance of that person offended than the host and invitee.

I'm going to make a personal anecdotal observation that the offended are usually folks who live or grew up in a relatively affluent segregated socio-economic community where fried chicken is not a staple of a fine meal and hospitality.

I was in Charleston this weekend for a wedding and had a great fried chicken dinner at Jestine's Kitchen. It was delicious and I am neither black, white, or Hispanic. The coconut cream pie was amazing also.
 
What paso said.

Fuzzy Zoeller's and Sergio Garcia's intents weren't to innocently portray a meal with Tiger as a farcical event. They were pointing out that he's black, and they did so in a negative stereotypical fashion.

I love fried chicken... probably more than any rational person should love fried chicken. And I'm not black either. But it's pretty easy to call a spade a spade sometimes. As for the outrage... eh. I agree that the "outraged" people are usually putting on airs, but that still doesn't make using derogatory semantics ok.
 
That it's Sergio is even more telling. The angst and anger he has for Tiger is well noted and given the timing of his comments and actions at the TPC gives it more bite. You would think that coming off comments and actions that were made to look even sillier due to losing to Tiger AGAIN he would watch what he says even more than usual. But no.
 
As tiresome as the persons who over-react to an offense in someone else's name are, that tedium is being at least equaled by people who believe all accusations of racism are unfounded. It is almost as though some people miss the good ol' days, but I doubt that is really true.

Amusingly, the op seems to think that fried chicken is the object of derision. Nope. It's the assumption that you can tell what someone will want to eat by the color of their skin. For blacks, it's the fried chicken and watermelon stereotype from the Jim Crow days.

I love fried chicken and watermelon and wouldn't think twice about serving it to anyone who may come to my home. However, if I were to say in a public forum that I'm having Colin Powell and Morgan Freeman over so I guess I'll have to fry chicken and chill some watermelon then that would be offensive as it reduces these individuals to a racial cliche from a racist time in our history.

Seems pretty simple to me.

edit: ps I do see by Crockett's closing that he is not taking this terribly seriously and mainly means to praise a dish that I wish I'd shared with him back on the farm.
 
The "fried chicken" thing is so trite and so discredited that it is frankly amazing that a non-idiot would use it, unless, of course, making fun of it as a cliche.

Obviously, my rant was not about racism or cries of 'racism", but the devaluation of a beloved traditional American food.
 
After chatting up the folks at Jestine's in Charleston, I need to brine my chicken and then throw some cornmeal into my flour.

Before I used a buttermilk.egg bath.
 
1. Sergio is a *****. He knew what he was doing when he made that comment.

2. At this point in our society, racial comments reflect more poorly on the person making the comment than the person they are directed toward. The outrage is completely unnecessary.

3. Damnit. I am now hungry for fried chicken. BTW the key to awesome fries chicken is the brine.
 
I agree, Larry. He is still butt hurt from the embarrassment of a couple weeks ago when he opened his whiny pie hole yet again and got a big serving of humble pie shoved in it by Tiger, again.

He probably underestimated how quick it would get around or the implications some could take too. I agree with Tiger that he is sorry he said it and got backlash, not that he said it. At least that's how I interpreted what Tiger said or how he meant it.

Also, the Spaniards have a race issue too. Look at some recent incidences regarding blacks in even Soccer. Italy recently had a problem at a Roma game. In fact, a major UEFA Champions League game was played in Spain without any fans in attendance, none. It was punishment for abusive and racist actions by the fans to extreme. These included chants of monkey noises, bananas and other things towards black players.

Maybe Sergio is a bit racist and that fuels his dislike of Tiger? Whether he is or not he failed to remember who he is, how he acts and is viewed and his place in the Golf World...psst, it's behind Tiger. Act like an ***, be treated like one.

It couldn't be happening to a douchier guy. Maybe Monte gave him lessons on class and candor.
 
Based on the history between Sergio and Tiger, it does seem that Sergio is out of line.....and maybe just out of touch with reality....who knows.

However, what I really want to know is how to make the old fashioned southern fried chicken referred to by other posters. I know this isn't Rusty's, but we need a good recipe.
 
I can't believe Tiger, a player who is characterized as one of the mentally toughest golfers, was actually hurt by that asinine comment. People need to stop letting others hurt them so easily. Find joy in your life and cherish it. Don't let others take it away from you with meaningless words.

Sergio is a tool. Everyone knows it and Tiger knows it.

And fried chicken is freaking delicious.
 
Si, Roma!


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RV,

I don't have to respond to your post in full right now. I'm leaving for this place and won't have internet access there. However, I will respond when I get back next Tuesday.

However, before I leave, I do want to apologize to you for the sassy and belligerent tone of my last post, particularly my closing remark. Even though we've disagreed before, you've never talked to me my like, and you didn't deserve that kind of talk from me.
 
I'll leave it to Dave Chapelle to squash all this racial tension and political correctness. In a way, I am sad Tiger's more Black than Asian in this segment. Sayonara fried rice, WHAT UP fried chicken!
 

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