For Real ....Herman “IS” Done!!!

Since some people have short memories about Mack's final years ...
Here are the rankings of his final 4 recruiting classes. The rankings were fraudulent. By this time, Mack and his assistants had gotten lazy. They hated the travel. They stopped going to the games and to the high schools. They were making offers based off phone calls from HS coaches they were friends with, without even seeing the player first hand. They made a lot of offers based off who they liked at our summer camps (camps helped avoid travel). They even made some offers based off paysite rankings. Those same paysites then gave players who committed to us a bump in the rankings, which further inflated the team's national recruiting ranking (see below). We also were not doing the full "background checks" anymore, which caused all sorts of off the field and in the classroom problems down the road.

Now for the reality check - these 4 classes (90 players from 2010-2013) collectively yielded just 6 total NFL draft picks.
We had ZERO players drafted in 2014 (first time that happened to us since 1937) - the NFL was not fooled by our paper rankings.


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ps1 - We had one player drafted in 2017 but he was a Strong commit - D'Onta Foreman
ps2 -- Adrian Colbert was also drafted but that was as a Miami Hurricane grad transfer player
 
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That Malzahn $20M buyout is 50% now and 4 year payout iirc.

If Malzahn gets a new HC job the the buyout can be partially offset in the new gig.

So $10M and maybe $10M paid out or less.

See where he lands.
 
SabreHorn said:
The educrats are trying to get involved at Auburn, which means that in three years, Auburn will be looking again.
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To me Auburn seems like the biggest cluster of a school (with respect to their football program) in the FBS. Classless act for sure.

Their decision to terminate Malzahn will come back to haunt them IMO. That is, unless I am completely misunderstanding his skill set.

I am not suggesting that we hire him here...but I am confident in opining that his record here, had he been the HC, would have exceeded that of Herman. For example, 3-5 against Bama is dramatically better than 1-4 against OU, a team that cannot compare to the teams Gus beat.

Those good old boys down there are a bit delusional.
 
By the way, Hoffhorn, I think it might soon be time to modify the subject of this thread once again. Suggestions:

“Herman Isn’t Done...YET,” or

Herman Could Still Be Done, Soon.”

I find it hard to believe that he will be our HC past about February 7th, and probably not much past January 11th, if not prior.
 
dukesteer said:
Fair enough. But bring the program back to prominence and the future Brockermeyers of the state will be wearing burnt orange.
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But we need the current "Brocks" to bring the program back to prominence and get the future "Brocks", so....
 
RainH2burntO said:
But we need the current "Brocks" to bring the program back to prominence and get the future "Brocks", so....
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The problem is Herman. Parents and recruits know that something is not right in Austin. As I have reported multiple times, Ewers parents said as much to a friend of mine late last month.
 
Joe Fan said:
Since some people have short memories about Mack's final years ...
Here are the rankings of his final 4 recruiting classes. The rankings were fraudulent. By this time, Mack and his assistants had gotten lazy. They hated the travel. They stopped going to the games and to the high schools. They were making offers based off phone calls from HS coaches they were friends with, without even seeing the player first hand. They made a lot of offers based off who they liked at our summer camps (camps helped avoid travel). They even made some offers based off paysite rankings. Those same paysites then gave players who committed to us a bump in the rankings, which further inflated the team's national recruiting ranking (see below). We also were not doing the full "background checks" anymore, which caused all sorts of off the field and in the classroom problems down the road.

Now for the reality check - these 4 classes (90 players from 2010-2013) collectively yielded just 6 total NFL draft picks.
We had ZERO players drafted in 2014 (first time that happened to us since 1937) - the NFL was not fooled by our paper rankings.


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ps1 - We had one player drafted in 2017 but he was a Strong commit - D'Onta Foreman
ps2 -- Adrian Colbert was also drafted but that was as a Miami Hurricane grad transfer player
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I remember the 2014 draft. I remember being dumbfounded that no one was drafted from Texas. That was a jaw dropping shock. We ranked 6 in recruiting in 2009 and 2 in 2010, 4 in 2011, yet no one drafted in 2014. Talk about being overrated. Nice post, joefan.
 
I think coach Traylor would make a good coach.
But it's a risk because of the big buy-out.
He would certainly get recruiting back in order. I think he can do it. It's not going to happen though.
Malzahn is interesting.
 
Pomspoms said:
I think coach Traylor would make a good coach.
But it's a risk because of the big buy-out.
He would certainly get recruiting back in order. I think he can do it. It's not going to happen though.
Malzahn is interesting.
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Gus would be a huge upgrade, plus we's only have to pay him like 100K a year and let Auburn continue to pay the rest.
 
I'm just an airline pilot, so I'm naturally bad with finances. That said, how have programs gotten to where they sign contracts with guys that force them to continue to pay these clowns when they run the program into the ground. Very odd.
 
horninchicago said:
how have programs gotten to where they sign contracts with guys that force them to continue to pay these clowns when they run the program into the ground.
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Dumbass school presidents & ADs, who have no clue what they are doing by hiring the likes of KornFairy & Chuckie NeinASS to advise them, when NOBODY will follow the money trail.

Do you think DKR used a "search firm" to find Mack Brown? Did Governor Shivers and Frank Erwin used a "search firm" to find Fred Akers phone number?

How many ADs are there in this country that you would let bring you coffee? Be grateful that Chris understands my statement - "All I want in business is an unfair advantage". As far as schools presidents, there ain't one that has a clue. The closest was Bill Schnkir (sp) at University of Virginia. Bill graduated from HS in San Antonio (South SA HS I believe), BBA from A&M, MBA & PhD in business from Texas. He loved football and gave over $100,000 a year to UVA football. He would have made us a great president back in the mid 90s, but his wife got sick.
 
SabreHorn said:
Dumbass school presidents & ADs, who have no clue what they are doing by hiring the likes of KornFairy & Chuckie NeinASS to advise them, when NOBODY will follow the money trail.

Do you think DKR used a "search firm" to find Mack Brown? Did Governor Shivers and Frank Erwin used a "search firm" to find Fred Akers phone number?

How many ADs are there in this country that you would let bring you coffee? Be grateful that Chris understands my statement - "All I want in business is an unfair advantage". As far as schools presidents, there ain't one that has a clue. The closest was Bill Schnkir (sp) at University of Virginia. Bill graduated from HS in San Antonio (South SA HS I believe), BBA from A&M, MBA & PhD in business from Texas. He loved football and gave over $100,000 a year to UVA football. He would have made us a great president back in the mid 90s, but his wife got sick.
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I was just being rhetorical lol.
 
Handler said:
plus we's only have to pay him like 100K a year and let Auburn continue to pay the rest.
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That's not true. We would have to pay him a reasonable amount to avoid the Auburn lawsuit, which even with David Beck representing us, we are not likely to win. We may get by with paying him between one and two million.
 
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