Football “Sitting Out” and the World of Adulthood

NRHorn

NRHorn

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I work for a Fortune 500 company that about 5 years ago decided to allow HR to run the company. We now are a social justice/liberal agenda business that happens to manufacture an industrial product.
Why am I telling you this? Because most of the beliefs being mandated are contrary to my personal beliefs. To ensure I communicate this correctly. In a meeting of 150 leaders, an HR rep said behind a podium regarding hiring..’if ALL you have is two white males to choose from ...and that’s all you have, it is what it is’ and if ‘you have a man and a woman, try to hire the woman if possible.’

So, talk about injustice. I had/ have a choice. Leave a really well paying job I’ve killed myself for and feel blessed in so many other ways, or leave. That’s it , two choices.. not three. That’s adulthood kids. Grow up.
I recon if I felt so passionate, I could quit. And might...but sit out and expect to be paid?
Nope, I decided to count my blessings and concern myself with being a more conservative voice - but staying home? Huh???
College football players have less, ooops I said it, latitude in life than I do, because they are provided a free education and this isn’t Communist China. You agreed to get a paid tuition in exchange for playing football. Still a choice... to sit out??? This still floors me.

You wanna tweet, march, speak at gatherings.. great. Again I’d be fired, but sit out or state I don’t think I can play (work) folks that’s childish and extremely arrogant.

Hmmm, I would be rightfully terminated. So should any athlete with any social agenda. Wanna truly protest,”? quit. I know two coworkers who have quit over the nonsense at my job.

I stopped following the NFL, Not out of protest… Just because I truly didn’t care anymore.

Who knows I never thought I would say this but maybe my Saturdays are becoming a lot more freer than they have in the past and if my choice is to continue on with this ******** or just doing something different on Saturdays that’s an easy choice for me

Oh and before this social justice mandate...I hired a newly formed department in 2001 ( this is for the enlightened ones who think I needed this mandate)
1. A Hispanic male Aggie, no less.
2. A female, who left due to pregnancy replaced with another girl.
3. A Pakistani who was gay. Didn’t know at the time, wouldn’t have mattered to me.
3. A white male.
Why? Because they were the best fit!
And my team kicked *** and I am graded on financial performance so I must hire the best, not to fulfill a social agenda mandate
 
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I assume your company is publicly traded?
If the HR agenda is "social justice" or whatever rather than the good of the business (shareholder value) I guess the BOD is good with that
The backbone is becoming a vestigial feature in weak Americans
Make America Ballsy Again
 
Driver 8 said:
I assume your company is publicly traded?
If the HR agenda is "social justice" or whatever rather than the good of the business (shareholder value) I guess the BOD is good with that
The backbone is becoming a vestigial feature in weak Americans
Make America Ballsy Again
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Yep- we were privately held until 5 years ago.
 
Corporate America (and foreign ones) go through fads. At my company and others, we had the following departments at various times basically set the terms for running the business:
- procurement
- supply chain
- legal / compliance
- marketing
- operations

I suspect your HR fad will run its course.
 
mchammer said:
Corporate America (and foreign ones) go through fads. At my company and others, we had the following departments at various times basically set the terms for running the business:
- procurement
- supply chain
- legal / compliance
- marketing
- operations

I suspect your HR fad will run its course.
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You have provided hope. Thanks
Looking forward to the day, and it will come, when my posts here are back to defending players missing a tackle instead of attacking them for entitlement at a level I never imagined

Anyone crowned as Sabrehorn interpretation Champ- has my respect.
 
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NRHorn said:
You have provided hope. Thanks
Looking forward to the day, and it will come, when my posts here are back to defending players missing a tackle.
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I see you went public 5 years ago when this started. Someone on your board probably pushed this, likely with the intent of trying to prevent a major discrimination lawsuit. The intent may have been fine, but the execution went sideways when they hired ideological or incompetent people in HR.

At one time, our board did the same with compliance regarding discrimination and other complaints. At one point, people were being walked out for offenses that were more than likely correctable mistakes. The message received however was, “you make a single mistake, you are fired”. Guess what happened? No one stuck their neck out and people show up to collect a paycheck. All decisions are reduced to the accepted process. Risk is penalized. In surveys and other means, the criticism was heard at the president level and the dogs were called off. Or maybe we have been beaten into compliance.
 
I had a good friend of mine, very talented software engineer. HP wanted to hire him, but at the time just didn't have any openings available. They were however in negotiations with a Austin based software company that wrote drivers for HP printers. They actually negotiated that my friend come to work for them during the negotiations, so he did. What he didn't know when he got there was this was a company owned by a gay man who only at the time would hire exclusively other gays.

My friend who was not only straight, but a devout Mormon. He ended up leaving after 3 months on constant harassment. Someone actually jerked off on his desk while he was at lunch. They did not want him there and made it very clear.

HP hired my friend and also absorbed the company, however he had a lot of stories to tell the HP HR department about his time there. No idea what HP did with the other employees they brought in, but I'm sure they kept a close eye on them.
 
Austin_Bill said:
I had a good friend of mine, very talented software engineer. HP wanted to hire him, but at the time just didn't have any openings available. They were however in negotiations with a Austin based software company that wrote drivers for HP printers. They actually negotiated that my friend come to work for them during the negotiations, so he did. What he didn't know when he got there was this was a company owned by a gay man who only at the time would hire exclusively other gays.

My friend who was not only straight, but a devout Mormon. He ended up leaving after 3 months on constant harassment. Someone actually jerked off on his desk while he was at lunch. They did not want him there and made it very clear.

HP hired my friend and also absorbed the company, however he had a lot of stories to tell the HP HR department about his time there. No idea what HP did with the other employees they brought in, but I'm sure they kept a close eye on them.
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WOW! just WOW!
 
Just read this thread. Proud to be an American, where I can start a business and be self employed. For anyone sick of there job for whatever reason, there is a better way. Drawback is your work hours will go up!
 
Horn6721 said:
I'd rather work 60-70 hours for myself than 40 hours for someone else.
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Agree 100%. Since I left my corporate job in 2014 and became self-employed I work more hours than I ever have, but also enjoy my work much more as well. I like to work, I just don’t like doing things I don’t care about, which is pretty much what the job had become. The pay was great but that’s not enough any more.
 
I hate accounting. So my wife is AP/AR and I have a longtime bookkeeper employee and an outsourced accountant. It works.

Got my first Neutral ATM going in to Texas Gun Club in August. It’s a range and Gun Shop. Check it out they’re in Stafford!
 
I left the "corporate world" 7 years back. I was tired of the the 80-90 hours with no weekends, couldn't take vacation, and also missing most holidays and birthdays. The companies I worked for wouldn't approve additional staff as well. Travel was a *****, especially foreign travel since it was, frequent, and was overnight on a plane, meet during the day, and fly out late the same afternoon or evening. So, at the last place I worked, late one evening before heading home, I typed out 30 day notice letter. I turned it in the next morning. Left after the 30 days, opened my Law practice and only took cases I wanted to. The cool part is, I worked about 3 days per week, and billed out more that I was making in the corporate or public accounting world. We moved to Arizona, but I still do some tax consulting work now and again if the issues are interesting. Otherwise, I'm enjoying life now, spending lots of time with my wife and daughter, and hiking in the desert or mountains.
 
I'm a teacher. I'm somewhat of an outlier because you'll never hear me ***** about my salary or, for the most part, standardized testing.

I really wish there was something I could fall back upon that would mirror my current pay and benefits, but would also be a secure option for the long-term. I have a wife (also a teacher) and family. At this point in history, I almost can't imagine a safer job. I mean, at the point at which the economy is so bad that even teachers are losing jobs, I'm pretty sure most of the rest of society would be F'd as well.

I cannot stand the politics. It's supposed to be an apolitical job. It's not - even in conservative districts within red states.

I recall one lesson I was to teach a few years ago that still perplexes me. I was so shocked, I had to double-check the lesson on-line to ensure that, what I was reading, was correct.

3rd grade. Short story with 5 comprehension questions at the end. The story was about an abandoned lot in a major city. Some of the local kids decided to build a garden on the property. Eventually, the owner wanted to build on the property, but the kids did not want to lose the garden. Blah, blah, blah. What was so shocking were the questions at the end. Paraphrasing with the question and the "right" answer.
1. If the kids wanted to retain the property and their garden, they could...
Correct Answer: Petition the city to take the land away from the owner and give it to the children.
2. If the petition did not work, the children could.. (I swear on my ancestors' graves I'm not making this up)...
Correct Answer: Protest by chaining themselves to the equipment on the site.

This is one of the more extreme examples, but there's all kinds of more subtle things I'm to teach or accept in my position.
 
Just retired - middle school. You speak the truth. And I never complained about salaries either. Education has become covert indoctrination even in "red" areas. I enjoyed it, but I'm glad my 25 years are up. The pension is a guaranteed income for like. It's enough to get by fairly comfortably on if you budget correctly. However, I may start a small business in the near future. Until then I'll sub a little at my old school to make up the pay difference.
 
I had a principal tell me I couldn't take my class on a field trip to Mayfield Dairy (TN) because Scotty Mayfield (owner) was running for Congress and said something negative about Obama. I went anyway.

I never got a high score on any of my observations after that. After the first two bad reviews, I actually had a department head write a lesson plan for me that scored perfectly on the district rubric. I still got a bad review. As a matter of fact, the principal stated that I did not have a graphic organizer for the lesson. This was a key factor in overall scoring as it hit on several domains. I told her that I had a graphic organizer and that she was sitting right there watching me complete it during the lesson. I actually still had it up on the wall during the post-conf. She stated that she could only "Grade on what she saw".

Sorry about the off-topic tangent. Carry on. :0
 
AC said:
I hate accounting. So my wife is AP/AR and I have a longtime bookkeeper employee and an outsourced accountant. It works.

Got my first Neutral ATM going in to Texas Gun Club in August. It’s a range and Gun Shop. Check it out they’re in Stafford!
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you got a neutral what?
 
Bitcoin ATM Machine. People can buy or sell Bitcoin using my ATM Machines. I named it Neutral ATM.
 
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