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Musburger1
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Bad choices limit your future options.
AC
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Putin is inflating commodities he controls like Fertilizer, Wheat, and Oil. By taking Russia off the swift banking system the West and Europe are hurting themselves due to Oil and food dependence on Russia. What will we do when Gas has tripled from here and food has doubled? That could be 2022! Won’t hurt Russia. They own a ton of Gold and Bitcoin as well. Let’s see what happens. I hope Biden gets exposed!
Musburger1
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Responsible leadership might begin by instituting a nation wide push to utilize urban and suburban land owners to grow gardens. That is, encourage us to get off our buts watching TV shows and work in the yard. In fact, competent leaders would have game planned what's happened, forecast the possibilities, and had such a plan ready to go months ago. I guarantee not only was that not done, but monopolistic forces would fight against it even now. Instead, they would likely push for government to seize private property and turn it over to them for national security reasons.
Musburger1
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Argentina and Brazil are suffering severe droughts, also need the fertilizer, and have already curtailed much of their food exports. What they have available is being sucked up by China. Australia is in even worse shape. And Ukraine? They may not even have a crop this year. And if they did, who would insure the cargo out of the Black Seas (which they no longer will have access to).
Keeping Morocco in the fold is the key to the fertilizer situation. We can get Potash from Canada, New Mexico, and lots of other places. Nitrogen compounds are synthesized at big chemical plants (USA, Germany, lots of places). But as for Phosphates—Morocco is the St Bernard in a pack of Yorkies.
Now a Machiavellian Moroccan Sultan/President/whatever might use this opportunity to squeeze some African colonies/holdings back from Spain. And Spain won’t be able to effectively argue post-WWII “international law”. Under that regime, they’re not supposed to be holding African colonies to begin with.
Now a Machiavellian Moroccan Sultan/President/whatever might use this opportunity to squeeze some African colonies/holdings back from Spain. And Spain won’t be able to effectively argue post-WWII “international law”. Under that regime, they’re not supposed to be holding African colonies to begin with.
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Weather events are nothing new in South America. Brazil and Argentina will still be major food surplus exporters. Australia’s situation is indeed a bit more extreme as the Murray River area acquirers are going dry. Still—a small population with lots more food production than they need—even in a big drought.
As for Ukraine, one point is that Russia has long eyed them as the breadbasket of E Europe. If they can hold off the Russians, they could export through rail to Poland. For now, they’ll be stocking and hording during the war.
I eat plenty of meat. Steak is one of my favorite foods. But, if it ever comes to it, a global food shortage could be mitigated by curtailing meat consumption. As it stands now, grains, including wheat and and corn, are mostly used to feed animals for meat production.
for now, there is no global net food shortage. Not even close.
for now, there is no global net food shortage. Not even close.
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Monahorns
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That's the Great Reset folks. It's all going according to plan...
I started growing veggies a couple years ago. I guess its time to start expanding that and buying less. With 15 acres maybe I should start growing some livestock.
In my post I'm talking about feeding my family. As I said I have plenty of space to do anything I need to do to feed my family and quite frankly my neighbors if I need to.
OUBubba
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Please elaborate? I’ve heard of the Great Awakening. But not this. It got Capital Letters.
Monahorns
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How many people can you feed consistently with 15 acres? My family has 4 acres.
Monahorns
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Klaus Schwab wrote a book about recreating the global economy. It involves much of what we are seeing with inflation, covid restrictions, and reducing fossil fuel use. It also throws in transhumanism and really weird stuff. Look up Klaus Schwab.
I don't know, because I've never done this before. My goal would be to get me and my neighbors to do some type of co-op. My next door neighbor has 120 acres and our best friends have over 1,000. I would probably let them do the beef production.
I'd probably focus on chickens because of the quick turn around and relatively small space. I am on a running creek and have plenty of water on fertile black land to grow crops.
With 4 acres you can do a LOT. Many don't understand how much can be produced from a small garden on just a 1/4 acre. The part I struggle with is preserving it. One squash plant grew so much I had to throw stuff away because friends didn't want anymore. If I'm trying to save for year round consumption I'm not good at that.
Musburger1
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Someone like you would be a better choice for an agriculture czar rather than the corporate shills that get appointed.
If all this comes to pass, I think the market will mostly take care of the meat situation on its own. Meat will become so expensive (because feed is so expensive), that people will eat a lot less meat. Now a few years of bumper crops in a row, the herds get built back, and meat may become reasonably priced again.
For now, meat's rather high, but I don't know anyone who is going vegetarian or cutting way back on meat because of this. If and when 70/30 ground beef hits $15-20 per pound or more, the masses will eat a lot less of it. And McDonalds, etc. will have thinner beef patties.
For now, meat's rather high, but I don't know anyone who is going vegetarian or cutting way back on meat because of this. If and when 70/30 ground beef hits $15-20 per pound or more, the masses will eat a lot less of it. And McDonalds, etc. will have thinner beef patties.
I live on a little over 1/4 of an acre in Arlington. In 2014, my wife and I decided to build a vegetable garden. I built eight container boxes and we used some planters for potatoes and herbs, etc.
Pictures are here if you are interested: (337) Pinterest
We had a lot of success with Cantaloupe (Sugar Queen), Tomatoes (Sweet 100) Lettuce (Arctic), cabbage, potatoes, and others. Not so much success with corn and watermelon. Probably needed more space.
True, but growing our own vegetables helped with the food bill and, for me, was therapeutic. Plus, we got to choose the seeds we planted.
Just getting away from the IT / Business world for a while and digging in the dirt is a good thing.
Musburger1
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Very cool, and also an attractive yard. Thanks for posting.
You've come a long way.Thanks Musburger1. I just realized that was my 250th post. Only took 20 years to get here.
Horn2RunAgain
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That's an awesome garden, man. We scaled ours back to just green onions and (small) tomatoes. We pulled tomatoes off the vine until Dec 26.
We've tried melons in the past, birds would beat us to it
Musburger1
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I’m sure they’ll settle this strike but it needs to happen quickly.
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