Floppers

They weren’t cramping. The LSU offense didn’t cramp - only the defense.

I propose a new rule: after a team has three fake injuries, in which the player comes right back after sitting out one play, the next flopper has to leave the game for the rest of the quarter. That should put an end to it.
 
I'm going to watch the game (recorded it) and write down how many times, which players, how many times per player etc. Then I'm going to monitor LSU games and see wtf....
 
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Bush league bullish!t from Fat Ed—the same guy that worked to sabotage our camps in Louisiana.
 
I believe that officials have the discretion to penalize a team (Delay of Game) for obsessive or fake injuries. But remember, wasn’t this an SEC crew? Very, VERY suspect. I think it was likely cheating by Orgeron. How else can it be explained when only one team had an issue? And issue after issue after issue.

Guess I’m a conspiracy theorist. I don’t trust any SEC official, school or, for that matter, ESPN. It’s all connected.
 
No Dukesteer
You are not a conspiracy theorist. As Texanne pointed out no one on their offense cramped up. It is not like they were not used to hot conditions .

It is not why we lost and I know no one is saying it is

But it was bs
I would rather have officials from a third conference like they used to. When did that change?
 
Horn6721 said:
No Dukesteer
You are not a conspiracy theorist. As Texanne pointed out no one on their offense cramped up. It is not like they were not used to hot conditions .

It is not why we lost and I know no one is saying it is

But it was bs
I would rather have officials from a third conference like they used to. When did that change?
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You are correct in that the flopping is not why we lost. Not in and of itself. But it was a momentum-killer time after time, and therefore was very much a contributing factor.
 
Being as Texas scored every time it had the ball in the second half, if they were fake it sure as hell didnt work and wasnt a momentum killer the Horns just took it in stride and still scored. If the Texas D would have followed suit maybe they would have slowed down LSU even a little and had a chance to make at least one stop to give Texas a chance to win.
 
Thank y'all for having this discussion. I was at the game and it was very frustrating each and every time it happened. Probably wasn't but seemed to be just after every big play where we'd get the first down.
 
Zucker
It will be interesting to see what you find when you watch it.
It seemed very definitely planned
And plain sleazy.
LSU is good team. Great teams don't have to resort to sleaze.
 
LSU has had the cramping problem for a while. When guys like Grant Delpit and Michael Divinity - two of the best players - miss drives because they went to the locker room for IVs, there's at least some legitimacy to the cramping issue players were facing.

I'm not saying there weren't any flops during the game. Just pointing out that cramping, in general, was a real issue. Ed O needs to address the root cause because it's been a common problem the last couple of years.

And Rashard Lawrence cramped up at the goal line and came off the field. You don't take your best DL off the field inside the 5 - Texas scored on the next play as I recall.

Lots of people are pointing out that LSU substitutes more on offense than on D, which contributed to the problem. Not sure if that's the case, but LSU fans are concerned about the cramping because we've seen it before, and it's hurt LSU by having star players leave the field at critical times.

TFIW.
 
You guys need to grow up. LSU NEVER faked an injury. Players not used to playing in heat and humidity will frequently cramp up during a game. Maybe none of y'all have been to Baton Rouge; it's not like it is ever hot and/or humid there.

It was fun, we were betting in our section how many plays they would be out. The classless fat coonass seems to favor the number 3.

Norfolk, I have a great view of the steps going to and from the visitors locker room. I NEVER saw a single LSU player taken to the locker room. Flop. stop the game, walk off (with no help), back in three plays. Orgeron orchestrated those just like he orchestrated the cheap ******** in warmups. I'll never respect him again, and I'm truly sorry that my friends have their school represented by such a low rent, classless piece of ****.

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Sabre, check the TV replay. Cameras followed both Delpit and Divinity to the locker room in the second half. Both missed at least one UT offensive series while getting IVs.
 
I'll do it. All I ever saw was a trainer run from the middle of the field to your locker room. Of course, I was probably too busy yelling at Orgeron and missed it.
 
NorfolkVATiger said:
LSU has had the cramping problem for a while. When guys like Grant Delpit and Michael Divinity - two of the best players - miss drives because they went to the locker room for IVs, there's at least some legitimacy to the cramping issue players were facing.

I'm not saying there weren't any flops during the game. Just pointing out that cramping, in general, was a real issue. Ed O needs to address the root cause because it's been a common problem the last couple of years.

And Rashard Lawrence cramped up at the goal line and came off the field. You don't take your best DL off the field inside the 5 - Texas scored on the next play as I recall.

Lots of people are pointing out that LSU substitutes more on offense than on D, which contributed to the problem. Not sure if that's the case, but LSU fans are concerned about the cramping because we've seen it before, and it's hurt LSU by having star players leave the field at critical times.

TFIW.
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I would like to agree with you Norfolk, but outside of the one instance you mentioned, it was all defense (and a couple of times they got their messaging mixed-up and two went down). I don't recall Texas having the same issue.
 
Wait
Vipe
2 defensive players went down on same play? :lmao:
I missed that.
Wasted a flop.

Norfolk
You have to admit it is strange since your team practices in same conditions as the game. If your players have had this "issue" for years maybe Ed has used the tactic with success so continues. It is hard to think a Coach would not correct that if it happens all the time.

Not to insult you. You have been a polite knowledgeable poster but the timing and frequency are puzzling. The Tigers are really really good and don't need to resort to that.
I hope you win all your games! Geaux Tigers
 
It didn’t bother me. I was of the opinion the tiger slow-down helped our offense calm down and give our defense a rest (like it mattered).
 
ViperHorn said:
I would like to agree with you Norfolk, but outside of the one instance you mentioned, it was all defense (and a couple of times they got their messaging mixed-up and two went down). I don't recall Texas having the same issue.
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One of the times two guys went down, was when UT got flagged for 2 holding calls. Video replay showed both players got their legs twisted under them when dragged down. One had an ankle injury, the other a knee. I don’t think either player returned to the game. The ankle injury was Rashad Lawrence. If you see the video you won’t doubt either guy was hurt.

Not saying there weren’t any flops. Just pointing out there were legit hydration issues, and legit injuries that it’s easy to lump together.

As I said the hydration issues aren’t new and are a real concern. I think it has contributed to late game defensive struggles against UT, UCF, aTm and others.
 
NorfolkVATiger said:
One of the times two guys went down, was when UT got flagged for 2 holding calls. Video replay showed both players got their legs twisted under them when dragged down. One had an ankle injury, the other a knee. I don’t think either player returned to the game. The ankle injury was Rashad Lawrence. If you see the video you won’t doubt either guy was hurt.

Not saying there weren’t any flops. Just pointing out there were legit hydration issues, and legit injuries that it’s easy to lump together.

As I said the hydration issues aren’t new and are a real concern. I think it has contributed to late game defensive struggles against UT, UCF, aTm and others.
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Too much roux in the gumbo.
 
NorfolkVATiger said:
As I said the hydration issues aren’t new and are a real concern. I think it has contributed to late game defensive struggles against UT, UCF, aTm and others.
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Texas was on the same field and under Herman very few hydration issues. With the history you outlined someone should be looking for work.
 
ViperHorn said:
Texas was on the same field and under Herman very few hydration issues. With the history you outlined someone should be looking for work.
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To be fair, major college programs are just now learning how to properly hydrate players. Sports medicine is in its infancy.
 
I think The University of Texas learned about in 9-19-1962, thus one of our alums went on to create Gatotade
 
Nothing "sarcastic" about it. If DKR was still alive, I'd take you to eat Mexican food with him, and he would tell you just how serious it is/was between his tears.
 
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