Fisher affirmed by SCOTUS

Usually, opinions are announced and summarized orally from the bench then released in print, but dissents are only announced (not summarized) then released in print. Dissents are orally summarized if the justice wants to make a point. Ailto is currently summarizing his dissent.
 
Dollar General (jurisdiction of tribal courts) and US v. Texas (enforceability of immigration executive orders) both announced as deadlocked 4-4. The stakes for the 2016 election just went even higher.
 
Not surprised. Now that affirmative action is OK, the Texas Legislature should repeal the Top Ten Percent rule. It serves no purpose anymore.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Not surprised. Now that affirmative action is OK, the Texas Legislature should repeal the Top Ten Percent rule. It serves no purpose anymore.
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The opinion discusses the 10% rule as part of the analysis, so I'm not jumping to that conclusion until I read it.
 
Now that affirmative action is OK, the Texas Legislature should repeal the Top Ten Percent rule.
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They should just ban race in admissions. The ball is in the legislature's court to do this. I am okay with keeping top 10%.

I made the mistake of reading it. Another nonsense decision from Ayatollah Kennedy. All you need to know at this point is that whatever the Supreme Court finds is the way it is. Their reasoning is not followed from one case to the next (or even in the same case in fisher) and is entirely meaningless.
 
NJlonghorn said:
The opinion discusses the 10% rule as part of the analysis, so I'm not jumping to that conclusion until I read it.
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Well, they passed the bill because of the Hopwood decision. It was supposed to be a race-neutral alternative to affirmative action. Well, there's no requirement to be race neutral anymore, so I don't see much point. The law certainly had its downsides.
 
Htown77 said:
They should just ban race in admissions. The ball is in the legislature's court to do this. I am okay with keeping top 10%.
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I would dump them both, but since the affirmative action isn't going anywhere, Top Ten Percent should. It's garbage.
 
I couldn't get into UT today. Wasn't in top 10 and am afflicted with whiteness. I'd have to pull an Elizabeth Warren and claim Native American blood or something.
 
I am for top 10%. It gives everyone a fair shot against their peers. The kids at highland park can take an SAT course that a kid in the valley cannot afford. Without top 10%, dumber rich kids will be advantaged over smarter poor kids. UT admitted in the Fisher case it wanted more affluent but less intelligent african americans for diversity over smarter but poorer african americans. The kroll report showed that Bill Powers and UT were all about giving favors to dumber rich kids over poor kids. Sorry, but I like the top 10% to protect poor kids and rural kids (including smarter but less affluent minority students).

In my UT law class the kids that were special powers picks flunked the bar. At UT undergrad, the students I met that were not top 10% (of all races) tended to be dumber than students who were top 10% of all races. Now if you say "that's anecdotal evidence" well Kennedy just justified his decision on ancedotal evidence so my opinion has at least the same weight as the supreme court's.
 
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Two cases remain from the February sitting -- Whole Women's Health (Texas abortion restrictions) and Voisine (domestic-violence gun ban). Two justices haven't written for Febraury cases yet -- Breyer and Kagan. Given the Court's strong tendency to distribute workload evenly, the odds are high they are writing those 2 opinions.

If it was Santomayor or Ginsberg, the abortion case would be a sure-fire liberal result. But Breyer and Kagan are more apt to compromise. I'm hoping for Breyer and Kagan to rule in the middle, with all 6 of the others partially concurring and partially dissenting. The SCOTUS nerd in me would enjoy dissecting that mess.

It's hard to say how Voisine will play out. It probably won't split along left/right grounds.
 
And to think some of you said Trump's comments on that judge were racist when the real racists are on the Supreme Court (half serious, half joking).
 
In the early 80s, I was hired by a Fortune 500 pharmaceutical company because they needed to hire women. 99% of employees there were white men who were also pharmacists.
Within 2 years, I was given the opportunity to "go inside" at the home office, a path that would have me spend a couple of years there, then go back into the field as a manager.

I was offended on both occasions. I did accept the job, but my mindset was one of "they will never, ever, regret hiring me", and I was very successful.
I did not, however, take the opportunity to "go inside". Frankly, it bothered me too much that I was being made the offer over many men more qualified than me. I knew I was too young and inexperienced to be a great manager, maybe not even a good one. I wanted to earn my shot by hard work, a proven track record of results, and a reputation of being one of the best. Eventually I did become a manager, and beyond, and I often thought of the young me, and how absolutely lost I would have been if I had taken on the job offered to me for the sole reason I was a woman.

If I were a black person, I would be offended and angry that a college would think the only way I could ever be accepted was by lowering the standards due to my race.
It seems ironic to me that black people say they want to be treated equally, until they don't. Quotas and lower standards do minorities no favors. In my job, the saying was, "if a black person leaves or is fired, you must replace them with a black person". What that led to was managers hiring a black candidate that wasn't truly qualified, putting the new hire and the manager in a tough start from the get go. It isn't fair to hire someone when you know deep down they aren't a good match for the job.
Many times that quick hire would be let go, and the cycle would repeat itself.
I would have hoped with all the programs, focus on teaching, scholarships and other things out there that we would no longer be dealing with this issue at UT. >sigh<
 
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