Fast Furious: Stupidest Government Program Ever?
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HammerOfTheHorns
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What exactly did they expect drug gangs to do with such firearms? Take them to the shooting range?
TaylorTRoom
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The project began in October, 2009, over 8 months after inauguration. President Obama, the buck stops at your desk. This is your program. The president doesn't get to vote "Present".
The American people understand that the federal government is too big to micro-manage. Just fess up and take the heat like a man. Your supporters and opponents will have their minds unchanged.
The American people understand that the federal government is too big to micro-manage. Just fess up and take the heat like a man. Your supporters and opponents will have their minds unchanged.
another story the msm doesnt want to cover. its been run so they can say they covered it but there is no "investigative journalism" going on by the msm, only bloggers.
Buried in Barack Obama’s failed trillion-dollar stimulus program was a $10 million bloody border racket that has now cost American lives. This goes far beyond the usual waste, fraud and abuse underwritten by progressive profligacy. It’s bloodstained government malfeasance overseen by anti-gun ideologues — and now anti-gun ideologue Attorney General Eric Holder will “investigate.”
Welcome to Project Gunrunner. Prepare for another Justice Department whitewash.
First, some background. Like so many border programs run amok, Project Gunrunner was the spawn of Beltway bipartisanship. It was established in 2005 as a pilot project under the Bush administration and run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The intended goal of the program’s sting operations: stop illicit firearms trafficking along the Southwest border through close surveillance of undercover gun purchases and coordinated intervention with Mexico. The deadly result: federally sanctioned gunwalking of high-powered weapons from U.S. officials right into the hands of drug cartel killers.
By 2008, Project Gunrunner’s bureaucratic fiefdom had expanded rapidly along the U.S.-Mexico border and into the nine U.S. consulates in Mexico. The office raked in $2 million more through the little-scrutinized Merida Initiative, which Hispanic vote-pandering Republicans rammed through in a war supplemental bill. Despite warnings from the DOJ inspector general that tracking and assessment measures needed improvement, the payroll exploded from a few dozen to more than 200 by 2009. Under the Obama administration, ATF reaped another $21.9 million to expand Project Gunrunner (nearly half from the stimulus boondoggle), and the White House has requested almost $12 million more in fiscal year 2011 appropriations for the program.
Project Gunrunner’s reach and authority continues to grow despite dire, prolonged warnings from insiders and whistleblowers that countless monitored guns have been passed on to violent criminals without being intercepted as planned. Following up on leads first published atThe Link and the blogs of gun rights advocates David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, CBS News reported last month that Project Gunrunner “allegedly facilitated the delivery of thousands of guns into criminal hands.”
One of those guns was used by Mexican gang thugs who murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December. At least six veteran ATF agents and executives stepped forward to expose how ATF presided over the purchase of hundreds of high-powered rifles and pistols — over the objection of the very private gun shops that the Obama administration’s anti-gun zealots have vilified.
One whistleblower familiar with Project Gunrunner’s Phoenix offshoot, dubbed “Operation Fast and Furious,” told CBS News: “The numbers are over 2,500 on that case by the way. That’s how many guns were sold — including some 50-calibers they let walk.” The weapon used in the Mexico slaying of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Special Agent Jaime Zapata has also been linked to Project Gunrunner surveillance operation subjects.
As investigative watchdog Republicans Sen. Charles Grassley and Rep. Darrell Issa step up pressure on the administration to come clean this week about who knew what and when, Obama denied any knowledge of Project Gunrunner on Spanish-language Univision TV. He blithely allowed that “there may be a situation here in which a serious mistake was made. If that’s the case, then we’ll find out and we’ll hold someone accountable.”
Coming from a man who appointed crime-coddling, accountability-evading, open-borders corruptocrat Eric Holder to uphold the law, that is a bloody, cruel joke.
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Buried in Barack Obama’s failed trillion-dollar stimulus program was a $10 million bloody border racket that has now cost American lives. This goes far beyond the usual waste, fraud and abuse underwritten by progressive profligacy. It’s bloodstained government malfeasance overseen by anti-gun ideologues — and now anti-gun ideologue Attorney General Eric Holder will “investigate.”
Welcome to Project Gunrunner. Prepare for another Justice Department whitewash.
First, some background. Like so many border programs run amok, Project Gunrunner was the spawn of Beltway bipartisanship. It was established in 2005 as a pilot project under the Bush administration and run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The intended goal of the program’s sting operations: stop illicit firearms trafficking along the Southwest border through close surveillance of undercover gun purchases and coordinated intervention with Mexico. The deadly result: federally sanctioned gunwalking of high-powered weapons from U.S. officials right into the hands of drug cartel killers.
By 2008, Project Gunrunner’s bureaucratic fiefdom had expanded rapidly along the U.S.-Mexico border and into the nine U.S. consulates in Mexico. The office raked in $2 million more through the little-scrutinized Merida Initiative, which Hispanic vote-pandering Republicans rammed through in a war supplemental bill. Despite warnings from the DOJ inspector general that tracking and assessment measures needed improvement, the payroll exploded from a few dozen to more than 200 by 2009. Under the Obama administration, ATF reaped another $21.9 million to expand Project Gunrunner (nearly half from the stimulus boondoggle), and the White House has requested almost $12 million more in fiscal year 2011 appropriations for the program.
Project Gunrunner’s reach and authority continues to grow despite dire, prolonged warnings from insiders and whistleblowers that countless monitored guns have been passed on to violent criminals without being intercepted as planned. Following up on leads first published atThe Link and the blogs of gun rights advocates David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, CBS News reported last month that Project Gunrunner “allegedly facilitated the delivery of thousands of guns into criminal hands.”
One of those guns was used by Mexican gang thugs who murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December. At least six veteran ATF agents and executives stepped forward to expose how ATF presided over the purchase of hundreds of high-powered rifles and pistols — over the objection of the very private gun shops that the Obama administration’s anti-gun zealots have vilified.
One whistleblower familiar with Project Gunrunner’s Phoenix offshoot, dubbed “Operation Fast and Furious,” told CBS News: “The numbers are over 2,500 on that case by the way. That’s how many guns were sold — including some 50-calibers they let walk.” The weapon used in the Mexico slaying of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Special Agent Jaime Zapata has also been linked to Project Gunrunner surveillance operation subjects.
As investigative watchdog Republicans Sen. Charles Grassley and Rep. Darrell Issa step up pressure on the administration to come clean this week about who knew what and when, Obama denied any knowledge of Project Gunrunner on Spanish-language Univision TV. He blithely allowed that “there may be a situation here in which a serious mistake was made. If that’s the case, then we’ll find out and we’ll hold someone accountable.”
Coming from a man who appointed crime-coddling, accountability-evading, open-borders corruptocrat Eric Holder to uphold the law, that is a bloody, cruel joke.
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Rex Kramer
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yes yo, cbs "covered" the story by doing a 2 minute blurb on it. the media's conscious is clean on the matter. of course, they don't seem to want to know who authorized it. there are a ton of unanswered questions. there are no telling how many mexican nationals were killed with these guns. what do you think would be the media's attitude if a republican was in office? you would probably have groups like ra raza coming out saying bush was trying to kill mexicans.
Gone To Texas
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General, CBS is the only MSM news outlet that has offered any serious coverage of this story. It is fair to say that in general there has not been enough investigative journalism of this program. That said, ATF and DOJ are stone-walling. The Mexican press is in an uproar, but I'm not sure how far they can get with US agencies.
That said, ATF and DOJ are stone-walling.
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They are stone walling because there is no public pressure on them. no "heat" so to speak from the press. all the doj has to do is avoid a couple republican senators and blow them off. big deal. they do that every day.
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They are stone walling because there is no public pressure on them. no "heat" so to speak from the press. all the doj has to do is avoid a couple republican senators and blow them off. big deal. they do that every day.
Gone To Texas
500+ Posts
An "update" if you can even call it that on this outrageous story is that there is no update. Holder continues to play dumb, stonewall, and shift blame to, well, no one exactly. It's as if this program appeared out of thin air.
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Meanwhile, hundreds maybe thousands of guns sold under this program remain unaccounted for and likely in the hands of thugs and gangsters, perhaps even the gun that was used to terrorize and beat a friend of mine during a recent roadside holdup and robbery while on his way to a weekend at the beach.
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Meanwhile, hundreds maybe thousands of guns sold under this program remain unaccounted for and likely in the hands of thugs and gangsters, perhaps even the gun that was used to terrorize and beat a friend of mine during a recent roadside holdup and robbery while on his way to a weekend at the beach.
BrothaHorn
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How are we not having some kind of hearing about this. Make Holder and the gang answer.
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