End Around/Reverse/Double Reverse

formermav43

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This is one of my biggest pet peeves while watching a game, and I wondered if anyone else cared or even noticed.

When the quarterback hands the ball directly to a receiver, this is an end around, not a reverse. Yet I constantly here commentators refer to this as a reverse. I find this mildly annoying. In order to be a reverse, the play must, by definition, "reverse" direction. The QB must either toss/hand the ball to the back on a sweep, or give to a receiver on an end around, who then gives to another receiver heading in the opposite direction. Of course, an end around is much more common than a reverse, they have similar action with a receiver carrying ball around end, and you have players, coaches, etc. yelling "reverse" to make the type of play known, so I can somewhat see this.

What really ticks me off, though, is when you do see an actual reverse. Probably 75% of the time I have seen this over the last several years, the play-by-play guy says "oh, wow, it's a double reverse." No, you moron, its not. A double reverse would require that receiver, who already got the ball from another back/receiver, to hand it to a third player running back in the original direction. This almost never occurs, it takes too long to develop. In fact, I don't know about you, but I can't recall a single game where I have seen this happen live; only 2 or 3 times in highlight reels.

Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Does this bother anyone else? Or am I just taking this way, way too seriously?
 
I would like to see Texas execute the reverse with more consistency, it seems like it takes too long to develop more often than not.
 
thats because the reverse is a slow developing play. its mean to draw guys to one side of the field, and give them time to get there and take themsleves out of the play. even on quick option reverses or WR motion reverses, you have to sell that original fake
 
it depends. When they have the right people actually running the reverse (Jamaal, Shipley, RT, Hales) it works no matter how long it takes to develop. But when they put in guys like Tony Jeffries it never, never works. I will never understand why they had Tony running the hitch and reverse as much as they did. Talk about frustrating to watch.
 
Reverses are pretty much always slow developing, I see this with other teams aside from Texas. Honestly, if a defense is playing good assignment defense, or if they're just selling out to one side, a reverse will not work and in fact it usually gets buried. That's why, IMO, the reverse is not something you just run for the sake of "keeping teams off balance". You run it when you see that they're going to be vulnerable to it.
 
What if the QB takes the snap and rolls out to one side and pitches the ball to a WR coming back the other way ?

Technically that is a reverse since the ball started one way and then came back to the other side. You rarely see QB just standing there with the ball and then handing to a WR coming around for what would then be an end around. If the ball has any motion to one side and then the other that is a reverse.
 
I agree with the OP, and everyone around me gets tired of hearing me complain about it when we all hear it on TV or radio. The old type of reverse was when a receiver got the ball from a runningback following a handoff or pitch, thus reversing the direction of the play and forcing the defense to turn and follow the other direction. You don't see that very often anymore, and instead see the simple end around following play-action. I cringe every time an announcer calls that play a reverse. Glad I'm not the only one.
 
I seem to recall Penn State hitting Texas with an end around+reverse that broke the Fiesta Bowl wide open.

And that sumbitch Keith Jackson was the most devastating end around runner I have ever seen in college. Did he ever not score on that play?
 
I agree with the OP, as well as the poster who stated that the QB can start the play one way and then handoff/pitch to the WR or back going the opposite direction. But when the QB just reverses out from under center and hands off to the WR - that's an end around and not a reverse. It does annoy me when the announcers can't get the basics of football correct.

It's kind of like when some news reporter says that a criminal defendant has plead "innocent". No one in the history of American jurisprudence has ever plead innocent because it's not one of the three choices: guilty, not guilty or no contest.
 
Wow... I see it's still the offseason. Carry on.

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a) Shuttle Pass
b) Shovel Pass
c) Shuffle Pass
d) Super Bowl Shuffle Pass
e) all of the above if Brett Robin is on the field.
 

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