El Presidente Illegal Aggylian?

Some days I feel like the whole world has passed me by. I don't think they should haul this kid to jail but at the same time how does he get into A&M without legal papers and how has nothing been done despite the campus knowing that he is here illegally?

To tie this to the affirmative action thread, someone's legal citizen kid didn't get into the school because this guy took his/her spot.

I'm all for an individual trying to better his life but there should be consequences for not following the rules, shouldn't there?
 
I'm not sure why this is so insulting or a "slap in the face" as Shiner put it.

I have no problem with enforcing immigration laws, and I don't think we should encourage those who are actively breaking laws, but at the same time why is this any worse than if the candidate were an admitted weed smoker or someone who with unpaid parking tickets?

In other words, why do these particuar "law breakers" draw such scorn? You would think from the responses that the candidate were a Taliban soldier or a pedophile.
 
I would like to know how the application was filled out? Does it ask if you are in the country legally?
Public school K-12 does not ask that
 
As a parent preparing my child for college applications, this pisses me off.

Then I realize this guy might be hoping to be deported from Colleyville to a better life. He would probably swim the Brazos for freedom if some corps guy was not stopping him with a sword.
 
I just hired a Mexican citizen. It took her quite some time to get her visa in order. It really ticks me off that others don't give a crap about our laws and we reward them accordingly. My son is at UTSA because he just missed the cut at UT. I wonder how many illegals were in front of him? Perhaps due to their ethnic bonus points.
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Shiner,

You make an excellent point. My real question is why would you be more pissed at the poor shmuck who is here because his father or mother brought him here looking for work rather than the the people (large employers needing cheap labor) who make this situation possible?

The reality is that we have this situation so we can continue to get strawberries for $2.99 and affordable homes with granite countertops.
 
BBB, I don't care how or why they're here, ok? They broke the effing law and they should be deported. Thanks for the strawberry comment thought. I really don't give a crap about the price of strawberries.
 
Dheiman:

All fair points. Perhaps I am juxtaposing attitudes I have read or heard elsewhere to this board, so I cannot really expect conservative posters to be accountable for what their fellow travelers think.

My proposed Reagan amnesty policy would not be fair to the millions who have not broken the law but would like to come here anyway. However, “fairness” is almost impossible to achieve when it comes to complex public policy, so I think the cost/benefit may still weigh in favor for finding a path to citizenship along with more stringent penalties for employers. Regarding the Dream Act, the “fairness” argument cuts both ways, in my opinion.

While I will concede there is an element of “cheating” as you say with coming here illegally, the rules are somewhat arbitrary. I’m not so sure why it is noble to come here from Cuba because your life sucks, but contemptible if you come here from Mexico because your life sucks. I also would not apply the “cheating” label to some kid who came here because of a choice his parents made. If I were in his shoes, I would not want to forgo an education knowing it would likely relegate him to the same crappy jobs as his parents. Granted, I would not want to run for an elective office underscoring what I am doing, but that’s just me.
It sounds like we both agree that offering jobs regardless of legal status is a huge part of this issue.
 
BBB is right about prices (not just strawberries) going up for many goods.

I'm good with that, if that's the price for securing the border and halting the illegal immigration.

The US of 2012 is not the same place as 1800 US. At that point, if you came here, you were completely...Completely... on your own. The government (taxpayers) didn't pick up the tab for anything. Not the case today. Today, we provide education, food stamps, welfare, medical care, legal representation, and the list goes on.

Additionally, 1800 US was wide open, population a little over 5mil. Today we are over 320 Million. Kind of like my house at Christmas, there is a point where it is too much, too fast.

Our legal spigot for immigration needs to be opened up, but we should NEVER, NEVER allow illegal immigration to become accepted as 'OK'.

And it is the fault/responsibilityof employers. If we start fining these employers for failing to use the E-Verify, they will use the system and thus not hire illegals, and then the illegals will largely go home on their own.

As someone said, they came here for jobs. If those jobs are unavailable, the majority will go back home, on their own dime, BTW.
 
Michtex, I can assure you that you don't know what the hell you are talking about. If a Texan out performs my son and thus gets a spot at The University of Texas that my son misses out on, so be it. But when an illegal alien gets such a spot, that's insane. Why even have laws at all if they're not to be respected?
 
I did not say one thing about building a wall. However, I do think proof of citizenship should be checked before someone is admitted to a state-supported university.
 
We can all agree that there are some laws we follow, shall we say, loosely like driving 60 in a 55mph zone. However, cops don't pull us over and reward us for doing so. Illegal aliens are certainly the beneficiaries of a lesser lottery for crossing our border. Higher wages, lack of taxes, healthcare, in some cases food stamps, safety (especially from MX) all the gifts without the citizenship.


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CedarPark:

You missed an important part of my post by only excerpting the first sentence:

My question was why do they draw so much more contempt than owners/managers/shareholders at the restuarants, homebuilders, construction companies, farms, and cleaning services that provide them with employment?


Perhaps that is not true for you, but since you only answered part of the question, I am bring this up again.

Also, as I previously stated in earlire posts, I am in agreement that the path to citizenship should be through legal avenues, that our immigration laws should be enforced. You suggested otherwise, so I want to clarify that point.
 
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