Egyptian General admits to 'virginity checks'

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I have no words for the degree of contempt I have for those actions and what they say about the people who so shamelessly carried them out.
 
How sad that one of the oldest civilizations on Earth could be so covered in darkness and so lacking in civiization.
 
The thing is that the "logic" makes no sense.

They were checking to make sure if they were virgins so that they could not later make accusations that they were raped?

1) Is there some kind of virginity check? The presence of a hymen, I suppose, indicates virginity, but the lack of one does not.

2) Why couldn't women who are not virgins claim that they had been raped? Do only virgins get raped? Even if you could somehow prove that woman was not a virgin before she got to prison, does that mean that she didn't get raped while in prison?
 
My point is that this is nothing new in Egypt, or in a lot of other states. The only difference is that, at least to my recollection, CNN wasn't reporting instances like these (or far worse ones) when that POS was around.
 
Agreed, but I would imagine it's like a lot of things in that region. We're not going to hear about it until we've become more directly involved. I don't think it's anything more sinister than that Egyptian civil rights violations weren't on the MSM's radar until now.

Right or wrong, I think we're fairly numb to things like this in that region until it's right in front of us. I'd like to think that's why we get so little coverage of the consistent and deplorable persecution of Christians in that region.
 
Actually we hear about it now because "our guy" isn't in charge. That's a standard throughout the course of modern US history. When the atrocities of the world are committed by US allies, there's little-to-no coverage in the MSM. When they are committed by US enemies, there's vast coverage and vast exaggerations in said coverage. So the MSM, for example, reports when Egyptian soldiers are fingering women on the flimsy pretext that they want to know if they're virgins, but they don't say a word when an Egyptian police officer hits a pregnant woman on her head, legs and stomach with a baseball bat so hard that she falls down a flight of stairs and dies along with her unborn child merely because she was asking why the police were in her home. I condone neither action. What I object to is the systematic behavior that the MSM engages in when they do this. When they do this, there's a subtext and anyone with an ounce of gray matter can see it. The subtext is the following: our enemies are the only ones in the world that commit atrocities. Not us, not our allies; just our enemies. Such thinking might appeal to fanatics, but it's rejected by serious people.
 
I'm not sure I buy that, only for the reason that I don't think most journalists are paying enough attention to connect the dots: "this happened on Mubarak's watch, but don't we send him money? So we probably shouldn't talk about this." In my time as a journalist I never saw anyone who cared about that connection - now they may have cared about something that directly impacted "their guy", and if the guy thought there would be something directly implicating a favorite specific politician, then I would buy it.

Journalists in general (just like people in general) have limited vision - a lot of times not by choice, just because they have a finite amount of time and a finite amount of energy to spend on certain issues. They are invariably going to go after things that are right there in front of them, as well as things that they see as being a public "hot button".

Two years ago, no one really cared what was happening in Egypt - it just wasn't on the radar. Now it's a hot topic, people are paying attention, so when you're a copy editor and selecting stories to run, all of a sudden Egypt looks more interesting. from a coverage standpoint, I would imagine there are a lot more journalists there now covering things, so there's more opportunity to look into this stuff.

You may be right, but I just think you're giving journalists too much credit in being far-thinking.
 
I have posted before on the ME and admit I have no idea how to deal with them. To think that diplomacy would ever in a million years work with these people is crazy. They wake up to a new reality and new deal everyday. I actually think we should just get the **** out completely and cut off our aid completely.

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i think we enjoy giving them ais or something. i do not really inderstand the thought process that goes through a politicians head. we have more oil here than they do in the middle east but we dont touch it. we have enough natural gas to last for a few hundred years. don't get it.
 
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