Dylan - A Complete Unknown

[Chop]

This was an interesting film, with good character development, that's worth catching when it comes out on NETFLIX (or whereever).

It explores the rise of Bob Dylan in the folk and folk-rock music world, and all the people (including fans) who want a piece of him and seem to think they own him and his musical direction.

Timothee Chalemet plays the brooding Dylan well. Monica Barbaro makes for a seductive, pretty, and good-voiced Joan Baez, Ed Norton plays a congenial Pete Seeger, Boyd Holbrook pulls off a moderately convincing Johnny Cash, and Scoot McNairy plays Dylan's hero - an aging/dying Woody Guthrie.

The way fans, The Newport Folk Festival, and the media can turn on their former beloved star is kind of sickening. Dylan did well doing whatever the F&%# he wanted, instead of listening to his critics.

 

[Crockett]

Heck of a movie! I'm a folk fan and have caught some Youtube of Pete Seeger. Norton has him down..the warmth, sweetness, the patient scholar.

 

[Chop]

That movie IMHO really ripped into the Andy Warhol crowd and hangers-on (as did Bob D and his “Like a Rolling Stone” song).

 

[Chop]

Bob D purportedly said that Townes was our country’s
greatest folk singer.

 

[Chop]

Heck of a movie! I'm a folk fan and have caught some Youtube of Pete Seeger. Norton has him down..the warmth, sweetness, the patient scholar.

If you caught it, Seeger referred to Dylan as a “Fellow Traveller” to his Japanese wife. So it’s true (per the movie) they actually were real live commies. They made some great music though.

 

[Crockett]

Bob D purportedly said that Townes was our country’s
greatest folk singer.

I hadn't known how close Dylan was to Johnny Cash. Not surprising. .... both guys were authentic and cared about creativity. Neither paid attention to the genre police.

 

[Chop]

I hadn't known how close Dylan was to Johnny Cash. Not surprising. .... both guys were authentic and cared about creativity. Neither paid attention to the genre police.

Exactly. Both did their own thing and flipped the bird to the music industry, producers, etc.

 

[Chop]

And they inspired a whole new generation of rock musicians who didn’t care about money, looks, marketing, and commercialization. Like KISS for example…