Did BO negotiate secret deals with Iran?

Horn6721

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According to press releases by A Senator and a Representative BO negotiated secret deals that none of the other nations in P5+1 nor Congress will get to read and consider
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Pompeo, Cotton Urge Disclosure of Complete Iran Nuclear Deal

IAEA tells the lawmakers that two inspections arrangements regarding Iran’s past military work will remain secret

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressman Mike Pompeo (KS-04) and Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) on Friday had a meeting in Vienna with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), during which the agency conveyed to the lawmakers that two side deals made between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the IAEA as part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) will remain secret and will not be shared with other nations, with Congress, or with the public. One agreement covers the inspection of the Parchin military complex, and the second details how the IAEA and Iran will resolve outstanding issues on possible military dimensions of Iran’s nuclear program.

According to the IAEA, the Iran agreement negotiators, including the Obama administration, agreed that the IAEA and Iran would forge separate arrangements to govern the inspection of the Parchin military complex – one of the most secretive military facilities in Iran – and how Iran would satisfy the IAEA’s outstanding questions regarding past weaponization work. Both arrangements will not be vetted by any organization other than Iran and the IAEA, and will not be released even to the nations that negotiated the JCPOA. This means that the secret arrangements have not been released for public scrutiny and have not been submitted to Congress as part of its legislatively mandated review of the Iran deal.

Parchin is a critical linchpin in the Iranian nuclear program that has long-been suspected of both long-range ballistic missile and nuclear weapons development. In 2011, the IAEA suspected that the facility was used to conduct high-explosive experiments as part of an effort to build nuclear weapons.

Even under the woefully inadequate Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, the Obama administration is required to provide the U.S. Congress with all nuclear agreement documents, including all “annexes, appendices, codicils, side agreements, implementing materials, documents, and guidance, technical or other understandings and any related agreements, whether entered into or implemented prior to the agreement or to be entered into or implemented in the future.”

Pompeo said: “This agreement is the worst of backroom deals. In addition to allowing Iran to keep its nuclear program, missile program, American hostages, and terrorist network, the Obama administration has failed to make public separate side deals that have been struck for the ‘inspection’ of one of the most important nuclear sites—the Parchin military complex. Not only does this violate the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, it is asking Congress to agree to a deal that it cannot review.

“The failure to disclose the content of these side agreements begs the question, ‘What is the Obama administration hiding?’ Even members of Congress who are sympathetic to this deal cannot and must not accept a deal we aren’t even aware of. I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to stand up and demand to see the complete deal.”

Cotton said: “In failing to secure the disclosure of these secret side deals, the Obama administration is asking Congress and the American people to trust, but not verify. What we cannot do is trust the terror-sponsoring, anti-American, outlaw regime that governs Iran and that has been deceiving the world on its nuclear weapons work for years. Congress’s evaluation of this deal must be based on hard facts and full information. That we are only now discovering that parts of this dangerous agreement are being kept secret begs the question of what other elements may also be secret and entirely free from public scrutiny.”

Congressman Pompeo is a United States Military Academy at West Point graduate and Army veteran. He serves on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Senator Cotton is an Army veteran and serves on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Armed Services Committee.

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If this is true how will Congress react?
 
The whole damn treaty and secret side deals means Obama trusts the Iranians and he expects Congress and the American people to trust him. Sell.
 
The whole damn treaty and secret side deals means Obama trusts the Iranians more than he trusts Congress and the American people. Sell.

FIFY
 
Hey Obama!
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Is this formal information or simply a press release put out by a Congressman and/or Senator that have openly been critical of the Iran deal since it's inception? I'm asking because Tom Cotton has been nothing short of a shill for the defense industry in his earlier criticisms of the deal.
 
Husker
If you read the release it states the two met with IAEA officials to told them there were 2 side deals made which the other nations were not part of.
Here in case you missed it in the OP
"WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressman Mike Pompeo (KS-04) and Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) on Friday had a meeting in Vienna with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), during which the agency conveyed to the lawmakers that two side deals made between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the IAEA as part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) will remain secret and will not be shared with other nations, with Congress, or with the public. One agreement covers the inspection of the Parchin military complex, and the second details how the IAEA and Iran will resolve outstanding issues on possible military dimensions of Iran’s nuclear program"
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"This means that the secret arrangements have not been released for public scrutiny and have not been submitted to Congress as part of its legislatively mandated review of the Iran deal."




Not sure why anyone would put out a release from their office IF this information was not what IAEA reported to them.
However anything is possible and if these "side deals" did not actually happen and this information is part of what BO sent to Congress then that will come out too. And it should
 
The most transparent president to ever transparently oversee his subjects would never do anything behind the backs of the American people. If you like your Iranian deal, you can keep your Iranian deal.
 
I think the question most reasonable thinking people would ask:" is it ok for the IAEA and Iran to have secret side deals that are still part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)?"
Well also why would there need to be any side deals?
And of course IF there are these 2 side deals what else is there?
 
Forgive me for laughing at this statement: "Not sure why anyone would put out a release from their office IF this information was not what IAEA reported to them."

You are talking about politicians, right? Are these the bastions of honesty and integrity that you want to hang your hat on? My experience is that nearly all politicians have an agenda that they support leveraging half truths to create leverage towards advancing that agenda. So, please forgive me for not reacting to some congressman's interpretation of a private conversation with an IAEA representative.

By all means, if a reputable media source picks this up adds some credible reporting to verify this interpretation then I'll come back here and give credit to these politicians. Will you please offer the same if that doesn't happen?
 
Husker
[QUOTE So, please forgive me for not reacting to some congressman's interpretation of a private conversation with an IAEA representative.[/QUOTE]
So you think this Congressman's press release is an " interpretation" of what IAEA told them?
But you admit these 2 Members of Congress did meet with IAEA? If this is not what they were told you'd think someone from IAEA would refute.
Your only skepticism is how the Rep " interpreted" what IAEA told them in the meeting?

I am surprised you aren't covering for BO by saying it is ok for side deals that are part of the Joint agreement to be kept from Congress or some other twisting of secret deals that don't have to be disclosed to Congress or the other countries? Trust but verify.

Define what You would accept as a credible source










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So you think this Congressman's press release is an " interpretation" of what IAEA told them?

Yes, that's what I said. Again, it's simply their side of the story not corroborated yet by any media source or the IAEA itself that I'm aware of.
But you admit these 2 Members of Congress did meet with IAEA? If this is not what they were told you'd think someone from IAEA would refute.

I'm assuming they met with someone in order to be able to say they met with someone. It's the details of what was said that I'm waiting for corroboration on. IAEA typically tries to stay out of politics so unless this becomes a media firestorm I wouldn't expect them to jump out and confirm and deny it publically. Remember, only the parties with the press release have a political motive.

Your only skepticism is how the Rep " interpreted" what IAEA told them in the meeting?

You're being obtuse now. Clearly I'm questioning both the Congressman and Senator's political motives. Sen. Cotton in particular has bordered on treason to achieve his political agenda thus why would I simply take him his word and trust what he has to say?

I'm not "covering" for anyone. I'm saying that I don't trust any political hacks to speak about facts or truth on this topic. I've openly criticized the Obama admin on this board for not being more transparent on this negotiation process. Conversely, I also think the shenanigans that Cotton and 46 other Senators pulled with the letter directly to Iran with intention to undermine the POTUS negotiating power should have resulted in treason charges.

What I will trust is a mainstream media source to pick this up. No, the DailyBeast nor Townhall or their ilk count. I want one that actually attempts to be impartial.
 
Defense contractors should love this deal, I'm guessing, since it will likely lead to more negative activity from further inspired Iranian backed/funded/encouraged organizations dealing havoc to American and Israeli interests causing more, not less, war actions across the greater Middle East and world. This deal will be more dangerous net/net than if the previous path was kept if for no other reason that there is now 140 billion of funding for Iran to disperse in their evil ways.

Kerry is a naive simp. I don't undestand how this deal is positive for American interests in any way?
 
There are at least two secret deals between IAEA and Iran. Kerry says; "Don't worry, I know what's in them." Just trust him. It's all good.

Sen. Tom Cotton and U.S. Rep. Mike Pompeo cared enough to fly to Vienna to meet with IAEA. The IAEA will gladly disclose that the deals exist. They just won't reveal what's in them.

The interesting part of this little scenario is that under the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act ALL DEALS, including those between Iran and any other party, have to be revealed to Congress. Congress has 60 days to debate and vote on the "agreement", but they might just say that they haven't received all the information yet and not start the 60 day clock until they get it. That will cause BO and Kerry to find some creative way around Congress per usual.

It appears that once again the most open administration in history has been caught lying. First they said they'd turned every thing over to Congress. Then, when caught with their pants down, they pulled the old Clinton "what is the definition of 'is'" gag and said; "We gave you everything that WE have".

[URL]http://cjonline.com/news/2015-07-22/after-trip-vienna-rep-mike-pompeo-calls-iran-agreement-worst-backroom-deals[/url]
 
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Hudker
Do you still doubt the credibility of Pompeo's press release?
Or have you moved into defense mode. Do you think it is ok for Iran and IAEA to have side deals Congress and other nations know nothing about?
Perhaps you are ok with Congress not be able to see the actual deals but will get briefed. Kerry seems to think he can says trust us pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,
 
I think the question most reasonable thinking people would ask:" is it ok for the IAEA and Iran to have secret side deals that are still part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)?"
Well also why would there need to be any side deals?
And of course IF there are these 2 side deals what else is there?
Perhaps there's a side-deal for the release of Americans being held in Iran. Perhaps there's a side-deal which entails Iran working with its neighbors in helping stop the spreading of ISIS. Perhaps there's a side-deal where Iran has promised help with the 4 million refuges who've overwhelmed the borders of its neighbors in the region.

Perhaps the side-deals were made by countries working this agreement so that Iran could save-face and still get the Ayatollah to give in and support the agreement.
And perhaps keeping those things private is the only way the deal was negotiated and agreed upon by all 6 countries and the UN Security Council.
 
Perhaps there is a side deal to hide any possible tapes of Kerry joining in with the protesters shouting "Death to America, America is the great Satan"?
 
Perhaps there is a side deal to hide any possible tapes of Kerry joining in with the protesters shouting "Death to America, America is the great Satan"?
I think the tape that was hidden was the one where a certain senator was singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb----
Bomb, Bomb Iran."
Luckily for us, we have a highly decorated war hero as our current Secretary of State who chooses to save American lives through strict negotiations vs a group of war-crazed ideologues who would, once again, send many of our soldiers to their death. Thank goodness we have a true war hero negotiating for us.
 
The sanctions were working and the only people talking about war are Democrats. There was a song back during the hostage crisis in '79 concerning 'bomb Iran'. I assume any reference to those lyrics was like the song back in '79.

Kerry will not be treated kindly by history is my prediction.
 
The sanctions were working and the only people talking about war are Democrats. There was a song back during the hostage crisis in '79 concerning 'bomb Iran'. I assume any reference to those lyrics was like the song back in '79.

Kerry will not be treated kindly by history is my prediction.

I'm referring to the video of John McCain singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb----Bomb, Bomb Iran" during his failed presidential campaign. Don't tell me you've failed to watch it...lol.....as it was news for 3 months. (it was a song by the Beach Boys with a play on words by Sen. McCain.)

The only ones talking about keeping us OUT of another failed attempted war in the middle-east are the Democrats. There are over 100 current Republican political leaders pushing the envelope and openly stating that we should consider a military option...WAR...with Iran, including 7 of the current Republican candidates for President.

The sanctions have worked from a financial standpoint, but Iran's nuclear program of enrichment increased almost 700% AFTER the sanctions began. And because of the financial hardships the sanctions have caused, Iran had to come to the table and solve the nuclear issues in a diplomatic way. After all, these are United Nations' sanctions.....not just Us sanctions. And the sanctions snap right back into place, should Iran break this agreement.

We will now be relieved to know that, because of this current deal, Iran will have to give up its enrichment program and have all enrichment materials taken from their country and put into the hands of ourselves and our allies.

Predict all you want about John Kerry. I suppose you will, also, predict that climate change is just made-up propaganda, that President Obama will be proven to be Kenyan vs American (since he is visiting that country today), that George W. will be considered the greatest president of all times by historians , and that Rickie Perry's new glasses really are 1/2 full.

Hmmmm.....the more I think about it, I predict that Donald Trump will go down as the best candidate the Republican Party has ever had.
Peace, as I respectfully disagree with you.
 
Predict all you want about John Kerry. I suppose you will, also, predict that climate change is just made-up propaganda, that President Obama will be proven to be Kenyan vs American (since he is visiting that country today), that George W. will be considered the greatest president of all times by historians , and that Rickie Perry's new glasses really are 1/2 full.

Hmmmm.....the more I think about it, I predict that Donald Trump will go down as the best candidate the Republican Party has ever had.
Peace, as I respectfully disagree with you.
wtf?
 
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" And perhaps keeping those things private is the only way the deal was negotiated and agreed upon by all 6 countries and the UN Security Council."
Uh do you understand what a JOINT agreement is? Do you think the nations ( which I know you mean includes USA?) could have made a deal in secret?
Do you understand Congress has a role in this?
I guess I am not surprised you seem ok with " secret deals" BO might make with Iran> I am not.
 

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